Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 308093)

This is just an inquiry. I've been looking over the rules for this class. If one had an unmolested car, looks like it could be a fun class.

The engine rules look pretty simple, basically the same rules from the early 70's. No trick engine parts. You can run the old style stocker camshafts, no radical ramps. Do Comp or Bullet make these cams?

I notice that you are required to have a driveshaft loop. Can't see where some of the lower class cars would need it but simple enough to fab one up.

I'm a little fuzzy on the open exhaust/header rule. Do you have to run the exhaust thru mufflers? Are you alowed to run open headers, have to retain the exhaust?

If I'm reading the "Weight Adjustment" correctly. You can add or remove weight to go up or down a class, just like regular stock?

Like I said, looking this class over. My partner and I may end up with a car that would be a good candidate for this. Just what I need another project.













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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 308137)

If you have headers you have to run through mufflers. It does not have to be a full exhaust system ,all you actually need is mufflers and they cannot be straight through type.Other words you should not be able to look in one end and see out to the other end.

If you don't run headers ,you are allowed to run cut-outs or open exhaust....
I am pretty sure if you went to the first race and it did not suit the tech ,they would probably give you a race to fix to their likings.....

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 308143)

Danny:
Does the original style auto trans have to be used ? ( i.e. 4 spd overdrive auto in a car that came from the factory with it )
I had heard of guys using a C-4 3spd auto in cars that came with AODs and the same for GM and Mopar guys.

Unfortunately for me, I just heard that my local track does not allow Pure Stockers at their S/SS combo races. :(

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 308143)

Danny:
Does the original style auto trans have to be used ? ( i.e. 4 spd overdrive auto in a car that came from the factory with it )
I had heard of guys using a C-4 3spd auto in cars that came with AODs and the same for GM and Mopar guys.

Unfortunately for me, I just heard that my local track does not allow Pure Stockers at their S/SS combo races. :(

Originally Posted by Tod Lane (Post 308157)

Ohio valley?

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 308281)

Unfortunately, Ohio Valley is not Pure Stock friendly. :(
I found that out yesterday straight from the track manager.
IHRA Stock GT racers are SOL as well.

The only IHRA Stockers they allow are crate motor.


That only leaves 2 races for me this year. London and Mt. Parkway.

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 308281)

Unfortunately, Ohio Valley is not Pure Stock friendly. :(
I found that out yesterday straight from the track manager.
IHRA Stock GT racers are SOL as well.

The only IHRA Stockers they allow are crate motor.


That only leaves 2 races for me this year. London and Mt. Parkway.

Originally Posted by J Gower (Post 308431)

Chris, you need to race at a Ohio Valley combo one time and you would see the reason behind it all. J. Gower O/S 3058

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 308522)

I did'nt know that I thought that IHRA class were ran unless they fit a NHRA class as example trucks had to run car classes FI classes had to reg classes but thought pure stock, gt ,crate would run IHRA class.

I remember Tri State @hamilton,Oh used to have rainbow classic there combo you had to run 9.20 or faster in 1/8 to race in it.

Mike Taylor 3601

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 308559)

I'm a bit (OK, a lot) biased, since I run a S/SS Association, but I always thought it was dumb to have a S/SS race where certain types of cars were not allowed. In our series, ANY car that is NHRA/IHRA legal is welcome. At some of our events, we'd lose a good number of cars by using "NHRA only" cars and classes. We have members that run SS/Production, Crate Motor Stock, Stock/GT, Pure Stock, etc. Why someone would want to exclude cars is beyond me.

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 308561)

Some of the NHRA racers (not all) look down on the IHRA classes and racers. Its an ego thing !

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 308667)

Terry, let's not start the IHRA/NHRA debate all over again, LOL! I could get in real trouble because I'd like to see the old AHRA/IHRA Formula Stock rules revived. Talk about having too many classes to police. That's kind of what the crate motor classes resemble.

This Pure Stock class looks really interesting. What would be nice if IHRA would open it up and push the break from 16 to 20-21lbs per HP. Lots of heavy family sedans out there that would make good stockers, just too heavy to make the current cut. In fact the car we were looking at was too heavy (natural Q car, NHRA 17lbs) but I was interpreting the rule of reducing weight to move the car down a class to 16lbs, I/PS. Since we didn't buy the car and Ohio Valley doesn't let them run anyway. It's a moot point now.

Back to the garage, finish my bracket car and order some more parts for the crate stocker. I'll just be happy to get a car done and get back to racing.