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Wow! now that's a tough way to loose...in the Semi Final, you beat Anthony....and then your fuel does'nt check? at least that's what was reported on the web...It's not heads up, but dial-in...wonder what the difference was? Well, rules are rules...and the officials are not getting soft in the later rounds....and of course, like they say...if it's your day...it's your day...Anthony Wins! Congrats

Wade Mahaffey

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Wow, if it was legit fuel that just failed tech, like I have heard a lot of lately, that is really a damm shame.

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No kidding it is a shame. How did it pass the other times it was checked? I was checked 3 times this weekend in Ennis so Jared had to have been checked at least 2-3 more times.

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Just heard from Jared. When we towed up there from Houston the diesel generator in their motor home was not putting out enough to run their roof AC units for some reason they brought a portable gas generator for that. They had a jug of pump gas for it. He said he accidentally topped off the fuel cel with pump gas. In the excitement and rush he must have grabbed the wrong jug. Hate that for them. He was doing a great job.

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That sucks. But it's also why I never put pump gas in race jugs

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Ok, I know ahead of time that this is a dumb question. My wife and I are sitting here wondering why can't pump gas pass? Race gas is going to make you go quicker so if you make a mistake and put pump gas in why isn't it approved? It won't give you a performance advantage. Again, I'm new to the fine lines and don't understand what the big deal would be. ???

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NHRA has a list of fuels that are legal for Stock and Super Stock.

Pump gas isn't on that list.

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Rules are rules as AB said in his interview, 3.22 reg gas here in NC, and that RACE car had a awesome package, how does this happen?

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And, when you tell them it is "C11" "C12", etc , it has to check between certain numbers at a given temp. If not it is illegal.

My pit vehicle and portable gen all run on C11. One less thing for an old man to mess up.

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That is a bad/sad deal for the Swinehart camp, everything was falling into place so well round by round. I was hoping to see a 1st National event win for Jared, so close... :(

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al my engine builders told me if u wanta burn a piston put some cheap gas in it! Its a crazy world we live in and NHRA tech is amoung them!

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That's a tough deal for sure. Do they normally check fuel in the later rounds when it's not a heads up run? Those last two rounds were some tight packages, especially the final!

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I should not say anything here since I get confused easier that I use to

I have a 2/12 gallon red generator gas can and a clear 5 gal fuel jug

Hind sight is always easy - I have done some pretty dumb things in the last few years

Things - I do not think I did 5 years ago

That said - it is easy to make mistakes - hard to correct them

Just have a few drinks and move on

Some will kill me for this but - if you have an x-wife blame her - she would expect it

Ron

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Dumb questions here -

Does Bertozzi have to check fuel and weigh when reinstated?

Does Jared get to keep the semi round money?

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Simple Mistake. Bertozzi caught a break, because he got drug that round. Jared and Bobby are a win waiting to happen. I have to race them at bracket races and they're tough customers. Great guys and consider them good friends.

Little trivia, but his brother Derrick won the first "No Electronics" Wally at the Div 4 ET Finals in 1995.

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Some pump gas, as is sold here in arizona for example, are "oxygenated".
From the EPA:
Oxygenates are fuel additives that contain oxygen, usually in the form of alcohol or ether. Oxygenates can enhance fuel combustion and thereby reduce exhaust emissions. Some oxygenates also boost gasoline octane.

The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather. Winter oxygenated gasoline programs are implemented by the states. The links below provide information about oxygenated gasoline, winter oxygenated gasoline areas, oxygenates (such as ethanol and MTBE), and health effects testing of oxygenates.

Basically pump gas that has been oxygenated has qualities that are similar to those banned fuels unacceptable to NHRA. Since field testing is not able to decipher the exact recipe's used in the fuel being tested, if it a fuel check reveals certain properties, it's no good.
Now, proper field testing is a whole 'nother story.

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Ok, that makes sense now. Thank you for the explanation. I didn't understand why something would be banned that could actually hurt performance but now I see. I appreciate it.

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Had some not pass. Sat over the winter and was to weak.

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If you have an ex wife or two you've made bigger & more expensive mistakes then just gas in the wrong jug

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I would think no one gets to advance unless Anthony stayed behind and got checked. I don't think you can allow someone to go back to his or her trailer and then have them come back for a fuel and weight check. Brian Worner may be able to help out on this one, he was reinstated after his opponent came up light on the scales in a heads up 3rd round run they had.

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Pretty funny thread, NHRA doesn't do their job at Indy and they're crucified.They do it here and the excuses fly about the offender,who to his credit and honesty came on here and explained the circumstances.I would think that both drivers would be tossed.SOP to sit there at scales/fuel check to see the outcome.

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They enforce rules when they want to.
Lost at the Gators one year and opponent bypassed fuel and scales.

I went across and sat there for 45 minutes until they finished the round and a round of SS.

I asked if the other guy was out and they looked to see who it was, I didn't know him.

They went and found him just as he was about to leave the track on Saturday night, he came back and weighed and after a discussion Skelly said he was in.

Happened to another one that round and there opponent told them he wouldn't come back.

He would of had a heads up he couldn't win so there was no use for him to weigh.

Just so happened the person put back in won that weekend, and this was before buybacks,LOL