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Angelo DiTocco 01-28-2014 11:37 PM

255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Is it true that the later '68 Camaro was available w/ the 4bbl 350/255 HP engine?
If so that would make the combo legal for Stock & SS in a 68 Camaro.
I heard this today from a guy who used to work at a Chevy dealer in the late 60's in Rhode Island -

bigsixman 01-28-2014 11:42 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
It would be the first time that I have ever heard of that combo. My call is no.

HandOverFist 01-29-2014 02:25 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Not in the book...aint happening.

cad 01-29-2014 04:07 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Not listed in GM Heritage info. check out pg 22 of the file
http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/docs...let-Camaro.pdf

Rich Biebel 01-29-2014 06:17 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
I Never saw one in a street car and it has never been listed in the guide. I raced both a
'68 Chevy II and a '69 Chevy II as well as a '69 Camaro.

350/295 in the 68 or a 327
350/255 in both '69 Cars

Billy Nees 01-29-2014 08:28 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 418450)
Is it true that the later '68 Camaro was available w/ the 4bbl 350/255 HP engine?
I heard this today from a guy who used to work at a Chevy dealer in the late 60's in Rhode Island -

Nope, not even in Rhode Island.

Rsmith38 01-29-2014 09:06 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Billy Is my 350 in a 70 Vega in the book? Bob in RI
(we have different rules - and RAY)

Billy Nees 01-29-2014 09:37 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsmith38 (Post 418467)
Billy Is my 350 in a 70 Vega in the book? Bob in RI
(we have different rules - and RAY)

In this day and age, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody convinced NHRA that Baldwin-Motion(and Yenko) is/was a manufacturer and gets all of their cars approved for Stock! At least they had real titles and could be street driven.

Dick Butler 01-29-2014 10:10 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
What Billy? you arent up for another combination to enter the pit gate? (just joking)

Billy Nees 01-29-2014 10:53 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 418476)
What Billy? you arent up for another combination to enter the pit gate? (just joking)

Dick, there are MORE than enough combos in the guide already that have never and will never be done. But I'm trying! I probably just won't live long enough to get to them all.

Ya know, there IS one early Camaro that could almost be a "maybe they built some" combo and that is a 67 with a 327/350 combo. The early press releases and service literature listed the 327/350 as being available and there are engine codes reserved for such a car. Stick only but it would be cool!

Dwight Southerland 01-29-2014 11:02 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Also, there was a 3x2 version of the 350 that was proposed and engineered, but was supplanted by the 396 option because it was cheaper to build and Ford put the 390 in the Mustang and Pontiac put the 400 in the Firebird.

Dick Butler 01-29-2014 11:13 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Billy, I like your comment. There are more than enough now. Wish there was a way to stop them if they are not currently being run with a one year window. If none show up they are removed from being in the books or being run. That could be a great first step in NHRA history. Stop more bogus cars and problems factoring.( I can hear you shouting all the way up here in Ohio) Probable 2nd step would be removing any which drop out of entries and then start from the top with only allowing 5 or so motors of new cars per brand.
Just a thought.....

Billy Nees 01-29-2014 11:48 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 418489)
Wish there was a way to stop them if they are not currently being run with a one year window. If none show up they are removed from being in the books or being run. That could be a great first step in NHRA history. Stop more bogus cars and problems factoring.( I can hear you shouting all the way up here in Ohio)

Dick, I'd like to see ALL of the new cars in the guide, not just the "halo" cars. The "bogus cars and problems factoring" are largely due to the High Performance Specials not the Low Po Civilian models. I see nothing to be gained by deleting old, not currently being run combos from the guide. I just might want to do a 54 Olds or a 55 Pontiac before I cash in my chips!

Angelo DiTocco 01-29-2014 01:35 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Billy - you sure about that? This guy said it was called a "Hugger - 350"?
Maybe it was a dealer installed kind of thing like the cross-ram and rear discs?

Mike Pearson 01-29-2014 03:23 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
That engine combo could be run in a 68 Camaro. It would have to run in GT. It would fit GT/EA. Wouldn't be a real good combo due to the HP and index differences.

Irace007 01-29-2014 05:01 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 418481)
Dick, there are MORE than enough combos in the guide already that have never and will never be done. But I'm trying! I probably just won't live long enough to get to them all.

Ya know, there IS one early Camaro that could almost be a "maybe they built some" combo and that is a 67 with a 327/350 combo. The early press releases and service literature listed the 327/350 as being available and there are engine codes reserved for such a car. Stick only but it would be cool!

That would be the L-79 engine.325hp in a Chevelle and 350hp Corvette
same engine part #'s .Polar Chev had both on the show floor fall of 1966.

Lee Valentine 01-29-2014 05:51 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Ang, turn up the heat you're starting to hallucinate.

Larry Hill 01-29-2014 10:24 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
The 68 350 /255 is the page before the 98 LT1 'Birds and Camaros!

Painter 01-29-2014 10:38 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Larry, old pal old buddy, I have never heard of the 255 in the 68 cars. However the early release and dealer show 98 birds and camaros came with the lt1. And the 98 one owner Firebird that I drove in of the street and built Woodros silver car out of had an original owners manual listing an LT1. But really there is no performance difference in a 97 versus 98.

Bernie Cunningham 01-30-2014 12:00 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
OH Larry

That's it !!

Dick Butler 01-30-2014 11:15 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Billy, I have to disagree on which motors are the problems. Maybe today the Factory stuff is the problem but if the past history is any indication then sooner of later a grocery getter motor will be identified that has a 4 barrel, good heads and is from the factory at 175 hp. You know like the Injected 305, injected 350, Truck 454, Oval ports etc to just point out chevy I know about. Someone else will have to indicate the Ford or Chrysler stuff. Some stuff just hasnt been tried yet and shouldnt. LIMIT the combinations which LIMITS the factoring night mares....

Billy Nees 01-30-2014 11:45 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 418613)
but if the past history is any indication then sooner of later a grocery getter motor will be identified that has a 4 barrel, good heads and is from the factory at 175 hp.
You know like the Injected 305, injected 350, Truck 454, Oval ports etc to just point out chevy I know about.
LIMIT the combinations which LIMITS the factoring night mares....

Well Dick, as usual we'll just have to agree to disagree. Usually, I think that you'll find that a "Grocery Getter" combo that gets identified as having good parts is/was the result of a Racer getting the ear of a Tech Inspector who made decisions that he wasn't qualified to make. And sometimes, they get caught and turned around. If you would like me to send you a list of my "Top 10 Bogus Combos", let me know. I'll PM it to you but the trouble with most is that they have been "bogused up" for so long that they'll never get fixed. I am still shocked that after 35-40 years, NHRA fixed the 69 Camaro hood thing.

I don't see anything wrong with the injected 305s and 350s. All that we're seeing there is smart people spending the time(and$$$) and picking up these combos.

I guess that you're talking about the truck head on a pass. car thing and I don't see anything wrong with that. There's 2 casting #s listed and one is much worse than the other. It should have a different HP factor.

Limiting the combos just drives up the cost, drives out the little guy and stifles innovation and ingenuity!

Ian Hill 01-30-2014 01:48 PM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 418617)
Well Dick, as usual we'll just have to agree to disagree. Usually, I think that you'll find that a "Grocery Getter" combo that gets identified as having good parts is/was the result of a Racer getting the ear of a Tech Inspector who made decisions that he wasn't qualified to make. And sometimes, they get caught and turned around. If you would like me to send you a list of my "Top 10 Bogus Combos", let me know. I'll PM it to you but the trouble with most is that they have been "bogused up" for so long that they'll never get fixed. I am still shocked that after 35-40 years, NHRA fixed the 69 Camaro hood thing.

I don't see anything wrong with the injected 305s and 350s. All that we're seeing there is smart people spending the time(and$$$) and picking up these combos.

I guess that you're talking about the truck head on a pass. car thing and I don't see anything wrong with that. There's 2 casting #s listed and one is much worse than the other. It should have a different HP factor.

Limiting the combos just drives up the cost, drives out the little guy and stifles innovation and ingenuity!

Well said (as usual), i would like to see your Top Ten Bogus combos list :-)

Geerhead55 01-31-2014 01:41 AM

Re: 255hp 350 in 68 Camaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 418575)
The 68 350 /255 is the page before the 98 LT1 'Birds and Camaros!

Larry,,,, you must be looking in that west coast rule book again!
Danny Durham


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