IHRA Division 1 Schedule
 

Didn't see an announcement about it on the website but, just happened to take a peek and there is was on the website:

So Lew can officially finish out his schedule. A few monkey wrenches I do see in this schedule is....MIR is on top of Bristol and Empire is on top of the Cecil LODRS.

June 17, 2016

Summit Pro-Am Tour | Division 1 (Double Event)
Series: Division I
Maryland International Raceway
Friday, June 17, 2016 - Sunday, June 19, 2016

July 08, 2016

Summit Pro-Am Tour | Division 1 and 3 (Double Event)
Series: Division I
Pittsburgh Raceway Park
Friday, July 08, 2016 - Sunday, July 10, 2016

August 19, 2016

Summit Pro-Am Tour | Division 1 (Double Event)
Series: Division I
Empire Dragway
Friday, August 19, 2016 - Sunday, August 21, 2016

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WOW a little surprised only 3 races in D1.
and Empire on top of Cecil really hurts.
WOW

Cal S/ST HR 1177

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Doesn't make any sense. I can think of about 20 cars the race at mir loses because they schedule against bristol.

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makes a short field

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Thanks, Rob! :)

This schedule is a bit of a surprise! :confused: I know that this season's Richmond race was a mess (for the IHRA, the track and the racers from outside the division who traveled there that weekend!), but not to be on the schedule for next year is problematic, as the Davis Family has put a great deal of time and money on getting the track fixed up. There's more to the story, I'm sure!

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Hope so

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When I started racing IHRA (points) in 2003, I had four races within one-hundred miles. One each at Dragway 42 (100 miles) and Quaker City (23) and two at Pittsburgh (85). Now, I have Pittsburgh, Empire (225-ish?) and D-42 (when/IF it ever gets finished). Everything else is over three hundred miles for me, one way. And, NHRA is just as bad for travel (except Norwalk and Columbus, which lost a race this year). Makes me glad I 'retired' in 2007.

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Richmond just re-paved the track........and now no pro-am ????

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How can you put a Div1 race on the same date as another Div1 race and expect success? I enjoy IHRA and support them as much as possible but this schedule is not accommodating to racing both sanctions. Tough decisions to make...

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just got a message from Richmond Dragway , I asked about this , stated it wasn't worth the agravation

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MIR was on top of Bristol last year also, I think I might do MIR this year. Bristol just isn't much fun when it's 90 something degrees.

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I don't understand how it wasn't worth the aggravation?!?!... Last year they were plagued with rain...it happens. They did a hell of job in 2012 running a double in one day! There was always spectators....

I personally don't like a D1 schedule with only 6 races, when D1 makes up majority of the racers....

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and to be short changed by only 6 , when are allowed 7

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Maybe they think MIR will be better attended by making it an in division for div 9 as well.

Richmond always did a good job, but trying to have it in the spring made rainouts possible. It needed to be a fall race.

I was hoping a few more tracks might try a divisional again this year in OH or KY to make it a little easier on folks from our part of the country to travel, but unfortunately, I would say most probably have the same thoughts that Richmond has. I think the doubles combined with low turnouts and low draw for a regular bracket race that runs until 2am to make any money is hurting the number of tracks wanting to host a pro-am.

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Guys, Remember it is not necessarily IHRA that is the bad guy here.
Remember they "Sell" points races to tracks in each division. As a track owner you have to weigh the profit and loss of the events you are putting on. To some track owners/promoters it just might not be worth the gamble of paying out the money for any (IHRA or NHRA) divisional event. It takes X number of cars to break even and add in spectator head count for profit. As a former track owner I can tell you just having an event doesn't guarantee your bank account will be in the black after the Points Meet weekend. Could it be that there are a bunch of track owners are watching the racers be "no shows" at these events and the dismal car counts put the tracks in the red. So like the guys at Richmond said "it wasn't worth the aggravation". What most class racers fail to remember or don't want to hear is a track can put on a big bucks bracket bash and have better car counts and go to the bank on Monday with money that will keep the track in the black and operational.
Back in the 70's I could have a 16 or 32 car Modified and Gas meet and pack the house with quality cars and fill the stands with spectators.
I didn't need a points meet to make money.
It is up to the tracks what happens at their facilities, not the sanction bodies.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you how a track owner/promoter usually sees the value of events.

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No Richmond Race...that coming later?
d

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I also wish they would move that Pittsburgh race out of the middle of the summer.

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The people with the Tulsa track learned the hard way. Went IHRA one year, had a points race and a national event. Lost their rears big time on both. Went NHRA, first Div 4 points race they said they made more than the whole previous year. Had near no cars at the IHRA races. Good car counts at the NHRA Div 4 races here. I don't know why nobody shows up for IHRA races. About all we had here were based very close around here. Not even all of those. Last IHRA race I went to in Texas had like 9 SS cars. The IHRA officials are very nice people. Treated us really well. Div 4 & 5 NHRA guys do as well. Maybe hard for many to get off work enough to run both?

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The biggest problem I see is the track owners are no longer promoters. The track owner has to figure out some way to sell his show to the paying spectator. If they could get some sort of money coming in the gate besides the racers entry fees and have a better pay back then possibly the car counts would improve. I am a racer not a promoter so I don't have the answer. One thing I do know if the pay back was better I could do more racing. We are racing today for the same or less than we were 20 years ago and the cost has risen exponentially. IHRA also has the issue of some don't like to or wont race 1/8th mile. I do both and like both. Florida has gone almost all IHRA now so we will have plenty of 1/8 mile racing down here.

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My experience of IHRA when I go to the towns that surround the races.
Usually in the evening for Dinner.
Nobody seems to know that IHRA is in town and a big race is going on.

Usually eat at the Bar since it is only me.
Talk to the other patrons and have fun.
Discuss about what drag racing is, what I am doing.
They ask questions and interested.
However few knew that a race was going on.

Like to hear what IHRA is thinking.
Some of us have a lot of sales, solutions and marketing experience.
Got to be a way we can get together and collaborate.

BTW This is a good discussion.

Dan

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It seems odd to me that IHRA hasn't even put out a press release on the division 1 pro-am schedule. Could that possibly mean the schedule isn't fully finished? They put out releases for the other divisions.

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That has been my thought as well; Impatiently waiting

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( QUOTE=That has been my thought as well; Impatiently waiting
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Gary Burr IHRA MEMBER # 1958 Stk 1949

Hello All
It was floating around that Capital Raceway was going to host a Pro Am.
However I have heard, they no longer want to take the gamble of putting on the race, and not making a profit.
It is a shame there is only 3 D1 races, I'm going to MDIR for sure, then I'll decide if I will attend anymore IHRA races this year or not.
O well I really like the IHRA races to, but Empire VS Cecil, I'm going to Cecil.

Cal
S/ST HR 1177

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in years past Capitol has done a better job of getting spectaters in the gate

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Capitol Dragway has been one of our largest attendance with ECIRS Impala clubs.
When we race our series there.
The Impala clubs brought in as many as 50 cars.
New management is too strict and wants guarantees.
So we went back to Cecil.

Dan