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James L Miller 01-01-2017 03:04 PM

Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Who are the cam grinders that specialize in stocker cams? And who to contact at the company? This is for the 273 4bbl combo with solid lifters. My engine builder wants me to find the little guy that makes one off type stuff that isn't well known like the big cam companies like Comp, etc. Thanks.

David Lee 01-01-2017 04:19 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Bullet will grind an profile ou want, but I think it costs more than the standard cam

my69396 01-01-2017 05:57 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Kind of on the subject. Do these numbers mean anything to anyone? 5786/5652h6 it is in a 283-220 stocker motor.

Alan Roehrich 01-01-2017 06:22 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Those are two lobe numbers, H is hydraulic, and 6 is 106 LSA.

Patric Fox 01-01-2017 07:08 PM

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I contacted several cam manufactures as I was building a Dodge 360 for NHRA Stock, and the only one who would return my calls was Langly at Bullet Racing Cams. Guess who I bought from....

Jim Hanig 01-01-2017 09:04 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James L Miller (Post 523465)
Who are the cam grinders that specialize in stocker cams? And who to contact at the company? This is for the 273 4bbl combo with solid lifters. My engine builder wants me to find the little guy that makes one off type stuff that isn't well known like the big cam companies like Comp, etc. Thanks.

Give redline cams a call 4083130145. He will get you what you need.

Greg Reimer 7376 01-02-2017 02:24 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
In the past five years or so, I bought two Bullet cams for my 327's. They don't give them away, but you wouldn't want anybody's product that they did give away. They have performed perfectly. I was real happy with Bullet's product and would always recommend them.

Dan Fahey 01-03-2017 02:28 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 523531)
In the past five years or so, I bought two Bullet cams for my 327's. They don't give them away, but you wouldn't want anybody's product that they did give away. They have performed perfectly. I was real happy with Bullet's product and would always recommend them.

Bullet has all the old Lunati, Crane and Comp Cams specialist who understand the Stocker cams including their history.

For Pure Stock I always advocate for Bullet.
They are very helpful with advice and technical information.
Prices are always fair.


Dan

Dan Fahey 01-03-2017 02:30 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 523531)
In the past five years or so, I bought two Bullet cams for my 327's. They don't give them away, but you wouldn't want anybody's product that they did give away. They have performed perfectly. I was real happy with Bullet's product and would always recommend them.

Bullet has all the old Lunati, Crane and Comp Cams specialist who understand the Stocker cams and history.

For Pure Stock I always advocate for Bullet.
They are very helpful with advice and technical information.
Prices are always fair.


Dan

65signet 01-03-2017 02:37 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
There is a Bullet cam in my 273, Langly was great to work with

James L Miller 01-03-2017 10:33 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 523475)
Kind of on the subject. Do these numbers mean anything to anyone? 5786/5652h6 it is in a 283-220 stocker motor.

I'm thinking those numbers are the lobe number, probably Comp Cams, maybe some other company. I think Bullets lobes start with a letter and four numbers.

http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Ca...terCatalog.pdf
Pg. 57
MAX AREA LIFT RULE SOLIDS
Continued
CAMSHAFT TYPE
LOBE #
RATED DURATION, DURATION IN DEGREES, LOBE LIFT, TAPPET LIFT @ TDC,
THEORETICAL VALVE LIFT @ "0" LASH, ROCKER ARM RATIO, @ .050, @ .200
106°,110°,1.5,1.6,1.7
5652 285 258 154 .266 .122 .110 .399 .426 .452

I didn't see a 5786 lobe, but there were some in the range of numbers around that page.

Don Anderson 01-22-2017 01:05 AM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 523487)
Give redline cams a call 4083130145. He will get you what you need.

Finest ground cams for a Stocker period for all makes & models.
Redline Cams @ 408-313-0145

James L Miller 01-22-2017 12:32 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Another vote for Red Line Cams. We will give them a call when we get closer. We did some flow testing on the 920 head and did a sonic test on the three blocks. One of the blocks had thinner decks (~.380") than the other two. I am looking for a set of 302 casting heads to flow and some of the stock iron intakes. My builder didn't like the mismatch in the ports between the 920 head and the LD4B. Quite a difference in port width. I guess Edelbrock assumed that people would do a port/gasket match on the heads.

Alan Roehrich 01-22-2017 12:44 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 523600)
Bullet has all the old Lunati, Crane and Comp Cams specialist who understand the Stocker cams and history.

For Pure Stock I always advocate for Bullet.
They are very helpful with advice and technical information.
Prices are always fair.


Dan


Actually, Tim Cole has been running the competition department at Comp for years, he and Chris Padgitt have been the Stock and Super Stock experts there for years, and have not gone anywhere. Billy Godbold has been their cam designer for quite a while.

John Partridge bought Bullet Cams from Darrel Hawkins, John had been working for Atech Motorsports, the commercial side of Summit, after having left Lunati years earlier. John is a nice guy, and Don Walthall is a very good cam designer. But no, they do not employ "all" of the Stock and Super Stock cam experts from "all" of the other companies.

Dan Fahey 01-23-2017 05:10 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 524816)
Actually, Tim Cole has been running the competition department at Comp for years, he and Chris Padgitt have been the Stock and Super Stock experts there for years, and have not gone anywhere. Billy Godbold has been their cam designer for quite a while.

John Partridge bought Bullet Cams from Darrel Hawkins, John had been working for Atech Motorsports, the commercial side of Summit, after having left Lunati years earlier. John is a nice guy, and Don Walthall is a very good cam designer. But no, they do not employ "all" of the Stock and Super Stock cam experts from "all" of the other companies.


Thanks for the update..!
What I stated was what I heard from a while back.
Did not know otherwise.
Glad to know the facts.

Dan

James L Miller 01-23-2017 10:19 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Alan, thanks for the info. My engine builder talked to someone at from Comp at the Division 2 Hall of Fame meeting a week or two back. He went to see Scotty McLendon get an award. At any rate he got some contacts at Comp to talk to. I'll pass on those contacts as well, probably the same guys. Apparently he talked to several racers there and they all thought I was bonkers for building a stocker. Probably true, but I don't have much interest in the other classes. I had John Partridge grind me a Pure Stock cam for a 340 when we had an IHRA track near Dallas. That went away and so did that plan.

Bob Shaw 01-24-2017 10:41 AM

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I have always bought my cams from Chris Padgitt at Comp Cams. I just tell him what I am building and he has a cam made for it. I have never been able to improve on what he sends me the first time.

340Cuda 01-24-2017 11:05 AM

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I saw recently that Charlie Westcott Jr. makes Stock Eliminator cams.

http://www.militiaproducts.com/camshafts

RJ Sledge 01-25-2017 11:25 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Spiro Jannings, redline race cams. Always made more power, and never any "livability" issues with his designs and he understands S&SS.

RJ Sledge

James L Miller 01-26-2017 12:14 AM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Sledge (Post 525111)
Spiro Jannings, redline race cams. Always made more power, and never any "livability" issues with his designs and he understands S&SS.

RJ Sledge

Thanks to RJ and Adger for the info on Redline. I've passed that info along to my engine builder.

Is a hydraulic cam legal in a solid lifter engine in Stock? I had the thought that we will be giving up a small amount of lift due to the lash in a solid lifter cam. We don't get much lift in the 273 combos, so maybe every bit counts? We can run the hydraulic lifters with maybe .002" preload/travel? Any thoughts on this?

njk53 01-27-2017 01:52 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
We used a Bullet cam for our big block Chevrolet and are happy with what they provided.

Ryan Horensky 02-01-2017 07:39 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Sledge (Post 525111)
Spiro Jannings, redline race cams. Always made more power, and never any "livability" issues with his designs and he understands S&SS.

RJ Sledge

I'll second that. Spiro Jannings at Redline Race Cams. He's innovative and tailors for each combo. It's refreshing to talk to the designer/cam grinder and not somebody sitting at a computer trying to sell you something they sold somebody else and still don't know how it worked out.

rawhide 04-07-2017 03:23 PM

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I tried call Chris Padgitt at Comp Cams today and they tell me he has left their employment. Anybody know what he is doing?

Roland

SSDiv6 04-07-2017 04:26 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rawhide (Post 531611)
I tried call Chris Padgitt at Comp Cams today and they tell me he has left their employment. Anybody know what he is doing?

Roland

Chris Padgitt changed jobs and works for Crane Cams.

rawhide 04-07-2017 04:33 PM

Re: Stocker Cam Grinders
 
thanks

Woodfin 04-07-2017 06:23 PM

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well of all things, Chris has been my go to guy for many years. EVERYTHING he did for me met expectations.

Todd Gross 04-10-2017 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woodfin (Post 531626)
well of all things, chris has been my go to guy for many years. Everything he did for me met expectations.

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