What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

I understand the rule, but how can they dial over the index!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I believe that is at least the second or third time that has happened at national events this year. I would think the computer would at least default to the index. It happened at Pomona in Stock E1 when I was there also but the opponent red lit. Very unfortunate to travel all that way and have something like that happen.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

Ya know, those 8 bucks an hour employees just aren't getting the job done in the tower...Guys are we really getting our money's worth with the NEW NHRA ??

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

i think they got the dial in backwards.that should have ben a rerun.

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That happened to me one time. Since then I religiously check my dial before pre staging. If the number is not on the board or correct I will not stage. Mistakes are made so it's up the driver to verify he has the correct dial. Once you stage you own the dial on the board. It's been this way for years. It's actually amazing that the tower crews do as good as they do. It's a thankless job. It's a real tough way to loose.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

It is such an important number. Mark them clearly for the tower staff to help the problem.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

Once at at E Town I dialed 11.11. Had the left lane so not sure how you could not see the number correctly from the tower window, but they did. Looked at my dial and staged. What I didn't notice they had entered 1.11. Needless to say I didn't win. How the hell does the timing system allow you to enter a 1 second run.

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I got my time slip at Sonoma showing I lost, I loaded up and left. After DD called about mailing a check for round money (this was a few years ago lol) he asked why I was a no show the next round?
The time slip was printed backward (my lane had his numbers but car numbers were correct. This was a .90 class race so the numbers are real close) At the time I couldn't figure out how I lost, I didn't.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

A possible scenario (different occurance) for this to occur was posted on facebook:

So here's the deal as I was standing about 2ft from the computer operator in the tower when this happened.

Yes, the computer alerts the operator with a beeping noise when things aren't "right"

The computer also uses that same beeping noise to alert the operator to set the next pair at the starting line.

The pair before Jim's run had some sort of a hangup or delay so Jim and his opponent were behind the starting line. The computer was beeping, telling the operator to set the next pair. It was likely ALSO beeping because of the 12 second dial in.

She set the pair and the beeping stopped.

I was not on the mic at the time but in the room. Ultimately I'm disappointed in myself that my brain did not trigger in time to stop it from happening.

So the answer is yes there are guards in place and yes there's human error at play here and yes, it should have been caught and stopped.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

I asked this when it happened before. Say Jim would have caught this on his way down the track. At the eighth mile he lifts and paces his opponent down the track and gets the win. Then what? Does his opponent have to accept the loss because he "accepted" Jim's dial in by staging?

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In my opinion he would have to accept the loss. it works both ways. I check both dials when I stage just to make sure. If there is a mistake in the other lane I want to know about it although its not my responsibility to alert the starter that the other drivers dial is not correct. you would be surprised how many don't check their dial before staging. Once you stage and run the race you have accepted the dial. In the overall scope of this it is a fairly rare occurrence that the dial is incorrect..

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This came up in the other thread.
Initially , I thought, well, if you stage on it ,you own it.
But is it really the opponent's job to monitor and correct the other car's dial in?
If he doesn't, he may just lose to an over the index dial. That's not how S/SS is run.
Take it a step further..Yes , the other car knows it's wrong and stages anyway, thinking his opponent will surely break , but then he doesn't.
The more I think about this...this should have been a re-run.

Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????
 

Yes,unless both cars are in the same class and yet tower inserted 2 different dials then it would be a rerun.