What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau??????????

moulton401 · 05-07-2017, 01:17 PM

I understand the rule, but how can they dial over the index!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bobby Fazio · 05-07-2017, 07:52 PM

I believe that is at least the second or third time that has happened at national events this year. I would think the computer would at least default to the index. It happened at Pomona in Stock E1 when I was there also but the opponent red lit. Very unfortunate to travel all that way and have something like that happen.

MR DERBY CITY · 05-07-2017, 08:02 PM

Ya know, those 8 bucks an hour employees just aren't getting the job done in the tower...Guys are we really getting our money's worth with the NEW NHRA ??

sammy pizzolato · 05-07-2017, 10:35 PM

i think they got the dial in backwards.that should have ben a rerun.

Mike Pearson · 05-08-2017, 06:20 AM

That happened to me one time. Since then I religiously check my dial before pre staging. If the number is not on the board or correct I will not stage. Mistakes are made so it's up the driver to verify he has the correct dial. Once you stage you own the dial on the board. It's been this way for years. It's actually amazing that the tower crews do as good as they do. It's a thankless job. It's a real tough way to loose.

Bill Cassil · 05-09-2017, 09:36 PM

It is such an important number. Mark them clearly for the tower staff to help the problem.

Don Fardie · 05-10-2017, 07:12 AM

Once at at E Town I dialed 11.11. Had the left lane so not sure how you could not see the number correctly from the tower window, but they did. Looked at my dial and staged. What I didn't notice they had entered 1.11. Needless to say I didn't win. How the hell does the timing system allow you to enter a 1 second run.

Mike Gray · 05-10-2017, 12:33 PM

I got my time slip at Sonoma showing I lost, I loaded up and left. After DD called about mailing a check for round money (this was a few years ago lol) he asked why I was a no show the next round?
The time slip was printed backward (my lane had his numbers but car numbers were correct. This was a .90 class race so the numbers are real close) At the time I couldn't figure out how I lost, I didn't.

Mike Voth · 05-10-2017, 12:41 PM

A possible scenario (different occurance) for this to occur was posted on facebook:

So here's the deal as I was standing about 2ft from the computer operator in the tower when this happened.

Yes, the computer alerts the operator with a beeping noise when things aren't "right"

The computer also uses that same beeping noise to alert the operator to set the next pair at the starting line.

The pair before Jim's run had some sort of a hangup or delay so Jim and his opponent were behind the starting line. The computer was beeping, telling the operator to set the next pair. It was likely ALSO beeping because of the 12 second dial in.

She set the pair and the beeping stopped.

I was not on the mic at the time but in the room. Ultimately I'm disappointed in myself that my brain did not trigger in time to stop it from happening.

So the answer is yes there are guards in place and yes there's human error at play here and yes, it should have been caught and stopped.

Bryan Worner · 05-11-2017, 01:29 PM

I asked this when it happened before. Say Jim would have caught this on his way down the track. At the eighth mile he lifts and paces his opponent down the track and gets the win. Then what? Does his opponent have to accept the loss because he "accepted" Jim's dial in by staging?

05-07-2017, 01:17 PM	#1
moulton401 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: RI Posts: 60 Likes: 474 Liked 41 Times in 11 Posts	What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? I understand the rule, but how can they dial over the index!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-07-2017, 07:52 PM	#2
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,448 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? I believe that is at least the second or third time that has happened at national events this year. I would think the computer would at least default to the index. It happened at Pomona in Stock E1 when I was there also but the opponent red lit. Very unfortunate to travel all that way and have something like that happen. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

05-07-2017, 08:02 PM	#3
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,636 Likes: 1,083 Liked 7,928 Times in 1,517 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? Ya know, those 8 bucks an hour employees just aren't getting the job done in the tower...Guys are we really getting our money's worth with the NEW NHRA ??

05-07-2017, 10:35 PM	#4
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? i think they got the dial in backwards.that should have ben a rerun.

05-08-2017, 06:20 AM	#5
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,445 Likes: 614 Liked 1,919 Times in 576 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? That happened to me one time. Since then I religiously check my dial before pre staging. If the number is not on the board or correct I will not stage. Mistakes are made so it's up the driver to verify he has the correct dial. Once you stage you own the dial on the board. It's been this way for years. It's actually amazing that the tower crews do as good as they do. It's a thankless job. It's a real tough way to loose. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

05-09-2017, 09:36 PM	#6
Bill Cassil Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Earlville Ia Posts: 70 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? It is such an important number. Mark them clearly for the tower staff to help the problem.

05-10-2017, 07:12 AM	#7
Don Fardie Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lakeville, Ma Posts: 253 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? Once at at E Town I dialed 11.11. Had the left lane so not sure how you could not see the number correctly from the tower window, but they did. Looked at my dial and staged. What I didn't notice they had entered 1.11. Needless to say I didn't win. How the hell does the timing system allow you to enter a 1 second run. __________________ Don Fardie 1582 F/S B/G

05-10-2017, 12:33 PM	#8
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615 Likes: 310 Liked 685 Times in 196 Posts	Checking on NHRA I got my time slip at Sonoma showing I lost, I loaded up and left. After DD called about mailing a check for round money (this was a few years ago lol) he asked why I was a no show the next round? The time slip was printed backward (my lane had his numbers but car numbers were correct. This was a .90 class race so the numbers are real close) At the time I couldn't figure out how I lost, I didn't. Last edited by Mike Gray; 05-10-2017 at 12:44 PM.

05-10-2017, 12:41 PM	#9
Mike Voth Live Reporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Buhler, KS Posts: 527 Likes: 5 Liked 57 Times in 14 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? A possible scenario (different occurance) for this to occur was posted on facebook: So here's the deal as I was standing about 2ft from the computer operator in the tower when this happened. Yes, the computer alerts the operator with a beeping noise when things aren't "right" The computer also uses that same beeping noise to alert the operator to set the next pair at the starting line. The pair before Jim's run had some sort of a hangup or delay so Jim and his opponent were behind the starting line. The computer was beeping, telling the operator to set the next pair. It was likely ALSO beeping because of the 12 second dial in. She set the pair and the beeping stopped. I was not on the mic at the time but in the room. Ultimately I'm disappointed in myself that my brain did not trigger in time to stop it from happening. So the answer is yes there are guards in place and yes there's human error at play here and yes, it should have been caught and stopped. __________________ Mike Voth 5189 GTN - 5188 GTO Voth Racing

05-11-2017, 01:29 PM	#10
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 823 Likes: 133 Liked 520 Times in 84 Posts	Re: What was that with POOR Jim Boudreau?????????? I asked this when it happened before. Say Jim would have caught this on his way down the track. At the eighth mile he lifts and paces his opponent down the track and gets the win. Then what? Does his opponent have to accept the loss because he "accepted" Jim's dial in by staging?