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darrellbargeron 03-06-2023 10:33 PM

Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
I bought a fairly well known and fast 440 6pack Mopar Stocker recently and I am looking at possible upgrades I should make that would help performance. It currently has Wilwood disk brakes on the front and drums on the rear. Should I just buy new Wilwoods for the rear, replace front and rear with Strange, or leave it alone? Who makes the lightest? Least rolling resistance? What kind of performance difference would I see upgrading over what I have? Thanks in advance

Jared Jordan 03-06-2023 11:04 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Darrell,

You've got an awesome car. I was lucky enough to grow up watching Don Wann and then Chad Loge & Family run it for many years.

I have Aerospace Component brakes on my '64 car and all of my family's Hemi cars had Lamb Brakes. I highly recommend either as, in my experience, they have little to no drag. There may be other manufacturers whose brakes do the same, but those are the two I know.

That being said, I'm reminded of when I was a kid and we were running my Mom's '79 Volare all the time. Before NHRA allowed aftermarket brakes, that car had factory discs on the front and drums in the rear. Pushing it was AWFUL. Took 3 people to get it to roll 6". We put Wilwoods on it and couldn't believe how much easier it was to move. We were sure it was going to be .25 quicker. It ran the same as it did before the change.

MR DERBY CITY 03-06-2023 11:44 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Jared is correct, you have bought yourself one heck of a stocker. Congrats!!! Lamb are the best brakes money can buy, and they are expensive. Mark Williams also has some very nice brakes. As far as Aerospace, I have heard enough horror stories about their brakes to last me a lifetime. I wouldn’t put them on my pit bike.

David Lee 03-07-2023 01:21 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 676978)
Darrell,

You've got an awesome car. I was lucky enough to grow up watching Don Wann and then Chad Loge & Family run it for many years.

I have Aerospace Component brakes on my '64 car and all of my family's Hemi cars had Lamb Brakes. I highly recommend either as, in my experience, they have little to no drag. There may be other manufacturers whose brakes do the same, but those are the two I know.

That being said, I'm reminded of when I was a kid and we were running my Mom's '79 Volare all the time. Before NHRA allowed aftermarket brakes, that car had factory discs on the front and drums in the rear. Pushing it was AWFUL. Took 3 people to get it to roll 6". We put Wilwoods on it and couldn't believe how much easier it was to move. We were sure it was going to be .25 quicker. It ran the same as it did before the change.

I could not agree more on how hard it is to push mopars. how is your mother?

Larry Hill 03-07-2023 07:58 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Dumbo has M/W that came with the car. The Cuda has Aero Space and both roll real well.
If your car doesn’t roll easy check the Toe on the front and rear. While your back there check pinion angle. The Private Lee would twist the 8 3/4 tubes so bad the paint would pop off the tubes and change the angle.

Rob Petrie E395 03-07-2023 09:54 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
I’ve got Asrospace on my bracket car and my stocker. With dual calipers on the rear. If your Aerospace equipt car is not rolling easy. First check that the calipers are centered on the rotors and the rotors are not warped. Can’t tell you how many I’ve seen where people say they drag. And they are not centered as per the instructions. Or the rotors have a ton of passes on them and are warped. If they are centered, rebuild the calipers with new seals. I have the opposite problem. Mine retract too easy. I had to put 2lb residual back pressure valves in my car. . And my master is way higher than the calipers.

Coleydog 03-07-2023 06:27 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Are you worried about rolling or stopping? Most all the tracks I’ve been to have very ample room to stop, almost could coast to the turn off. Of course drums aren’t as pretty as disc brakes.

Larry Hill 03-08-2023 07:44 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
If you are using drum brakes on the rear check the backing plate for stretched holes. It won’t make it roll any easier but it will make safe to race. The backing plate allows the shoes to hold the car on the starting line.

darrellbargeron 03-08-2023 09:04 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
It stops and holds fine now. I'm just looking at what could be done to find some et. I would like to be more competitive with those newer corvettes around here if that's possible.

Coleydog 03-08-2023 05:28 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Spend your money on ceramic bearings anywhere you can put them

Larry Hill 03-09-2023 10:11 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
All of the Corvette’s are top shelf but one had a difficult time keeping it within the rules. Go figure.

427FE 03-10-2023 07:44 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 676979)
As far as Aerospace, I have heard enough horror stories about their brakes to last me a lifetime. I wouldn’t put them on my pit bike.


I have them on my car. Not a single complaint yet.

Darcy Clarke 03-10-2023 09:31 AM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Personally I have had 6 Stock Eliminator and Superstock Cars with Aerospace Brakes and I have yet to have a problem ( I as well never bolt anything to any of my cars that I dont optimize). My personal belief is save your money on the trick stuff that truly makes no ET difference and spend it on making the car reliable, safe and fast. Most races are won by the cars that make it to the final round.

Darcy Clarke
6254
A/SA SS/EA

darrellbargeron 03-10-2023 02:28 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Darcy, are you suggesting for me to leave the drum brakes on it or just not overspend on expensive brakes such as Lamb or MW? It has Wilwood on the front and I believe the matching rears wouldn't be too expensive. I am just not sure if I would gain anything.

The only problem I have personally seen with Aerospace was on heavily bracket raced 4-link dragster I bought about 20 yrs ago. It was owned by a highly accomplished bracket racer that probably used the brakes pretty aggressively and it had warped rotors and hats that I had to replace...

Eric Merryfield 03-10-2023 03:30 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darrellbargeron (Post 677140)
Darcy, are you suggesting for me to leave the drum brakes on it or just not overspend on expensive brakes such as Lamb or MW? It has Wilwood on the front and I believe the matching rears wouldn't be too expensive. I am just not sure if I would gain anything.

The only problem I have personally seen with Aerospace was on heavily bracket raced 4-link dragster I bought about 20 yrs ago. It was owned by a highly accomplished bracket racer that probably used the brakes pretty aggressively and it had warped rotors and hats that I had to replace...

Good advice there from Darcy, on my dakota, went from a 8.75 with drums to 9.25 with strange discs in the back, and I can't notice any performance difference, if anything the drums held better on the line. Assuming that B body has a dana with drums not sure how much weight savings you would accomplish. Those that have done it would be able to chime in.

I'd run it as is to get yourself a baseline, and also get a gauge on the realistic gains that might be possible versus the others in the class........and for what $. Good luck Eric

Frank Castros 03-10-2023 04:21 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 677011)
If you are using drum brakes on the rear check the backing plate for stretched holes. It won’t make it roll any easier but it will make safe to race. The backing plate allows the shoes to hold the car on the starting line.

Before the rule changed to allow aftermarket disc brakes we reinforced the backing plates, also because we used six cylinder 9" drum brakes at all four corners we coasted to the last turn off whenever we could. Excessive braking at the finish line was not my favorite manner of racing for obvious reasons. If I had my choice today I'd buy brakes from Lamb Components. Safety is priceless.

Darcy Clarke 03-10-2023 05:17 PM

Re: Best Brakes for Mopar B Body Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darrellbargeron (Post 677140)
Darcy, are you suggesting for me to leave the drum brakes on it or just not overspend on expensive brakes such as Lamb or MW? It has Wilwood on the front and I believe the matching rears wouldn't be too expensive. I am just not sure if I would gain anything.

The only problem I have personally seen with Aerospace was on heavily bracket raced 4-link dragster I bought about 20 yrs ago. It was owned by a highly accomplished bracket racer that probably used the brakes pretty aggressively and it had warped rotors and hats that I had to replace...

What I am suggesting is race within your budget, if 8 had unlimited budget I would have 6 sets of Lamb brakes but for that price I can actually buy a car. I started with drum brakes and moved to 4nwheel disc as my budget and as speed increased and I needed more stopping power. You already have Mark Williams if you got the same for the rear then all the spare parts would interchange. I would have to bet you would have a hard time measuring any ET difference between any of the companies when they are new and installed correctly. Sometimes why it seems like your going faster is because your wallet is lighter.


Darcy Clarke
6254
A/SA SS/EA


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