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Eric Merryfield 02-10-2014 05:39 PM

current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Can anyone help educate me and others I am sure on CIC:

For the d-1 opens;

CIC will be based on current NHRA CIC policy -- .510 under your index will adjust your index for the next round. For Example, Racer X runs 9.000 on a 10.000 index; Index for round 2 will be 9.49 (10.00 - .510 = 9.49). It is the racer’s responsibility to know what his and his opponent’s index should be for all rounds of eliminations. In a situation where both vehicles are in the same class, the race will be conducted on a heads-up basis.

So as long as you don't run .510 under your index stays the same from round to round assuming you win the race to the stripe of course.

So in theory the 1.5 under the index cars should be able to win these races.

With no AHFS for opens it could be quite fun for some and a instant loss for others.

Am I correct in my reading?

Thanks

Eric

art leong 02-10-2014 05:57 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
In comp or in class for stock and superstock. For all races It is the towers responsibility to get the index right. Not the racers. (been there done that). There is no shoe polish, no dial in. It is not the racers job to even make sure their own index is right.

FED 387 02-10-2014 07:11 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Art--- However IN COMP if the tower has posted an INCORRECT index on the tree and you stage YOU ACCEPT that index as the correct index!!!!
If you do not stage there is still time to correct the index.

Mark Markow 02-10-2014 07:30 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
why such a low index hit .510 under? the bottom of the sheet is usually faster than that. I would think a .7 .8 would be closer, or even a second under but .51? take Pomona for example you have to go all the way back to I think #46 qualifier for .51 under. everyone will be on the brakes at the 1/8.

rognelson777 02-10-2014 07:55 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Tower getting indexes wrong happened in Comp at the dutch classic in 2011

In CIC racing it is 1st to finish line and you better take as little stripe as possible. Go to inside comp and see how they are beating up a racer for taking permanent hit for taking the stripe by 14ft.

Probably going to hang out at finish line to watch the smoke coming off the tires for these races,

In a race like the open, the object is save as much as possible until the final.
Maybe semis to get to the money round is not a bad idea either.
Also watch what other races have taken, so if all semifinalists have run 1.20 under index and you are clean, (not faster than .510 under original index) you get to go at it make sure you take the stripe.

Know your competition

Mike Carr 02-10-2014 11:18 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
CIC only applies to Comp Eliminator. CIC starts at -.510 under, and goes .01 reduction for each hundredth past -.510 you go. -.570 = .07 reduction; -.730 = .23 reduction. -1.000 is a .50 reduction. No permanent index reductions at Opens, so on Monday, all Indexes go back as they were.

Mark Markow 02-10-2014 11:56 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 420131)
CIC only applies to Comp Eliminator. CIC starts at -.510 under, and goes .01 reduction for each hundredth past -.510 you go. -.570 = .07 reduction; -.730 = .23 reduction. -1.000 is a .50 reduction. No permanent index reductions at Opens, so on Monday, all Indexes go back as they were.

mike the open races are supposed to have stock super/stock cic races.as well as combo races. there is some confusion on the format.

art leong 02-11-2014 01:12 AM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 420102)
Art--- However IN COMP if the tower has posted an INCORRECT index on the tree and you stage YOU ACCEPT that index as the correct index!!!!
If you do not stage there is still time to correct the index.

Not as of Belle Rose 2012. I was put in 2 seconds to fast. Made the run Got passed at the 1/8 mile mark by an SS/AM car. Stayed in it to see what was wrong, lifted just short of the finish. And missed an instant hit by .001. Was told by NHRA I had to rerun it the next day. I was having trouble holding air in my slicks. So I instected them in the daylight and found they were worn past the holes. They had the chords so frayed it look like it was leaking spaghetti. I just redlighted and drove up the track. I could see me getting out of shape and tangling with a 170 mph car.
You are responsible for checking the dial ins. The tower is responsible for checking the indexes

jim powers 02-11-2014 10:58 AM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
I could be wrong but i thought the cic and combo races were in addition to the regular eliminators for stk and ss???

Eric Merryfield 02-11-2014 03:41 PM

Re: current NHRA CIC policy for opens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jim powers (Post 420169)
I could be wrong but i thought the cic and combo races were in addition to the regular eliminators for stk and ss???

They changed it so there is a stock superstock combo eliminator and a CIC stock superstock combo.......the one race this might be a issue is the dutch.......200 plus cars is one gigantic combo....


Not sure if racers like one class combo or not.

I liked it the old way but something new can be fun too!

Eric


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