Stick cars , tubes or no tubes

joespanova · 01-08-2013, 02:22 PM

I just put some new rubber on my Nova and I'm thinking of ditching the tubes. I had 14-32 C07 Hoosiers , now have the 13.5 -31.5 same compound. The car may have liked the additional sidewall stiffness with the tubes and I know I liked the fact that they held air all the time..........however , any opinions?

Thanks

Mike Taylor 3601 · 01-08-2013, 04:18 PM

Ditch'em you'll be glad
Mike Taylor 3601

Jeff Colvert · 01-08-2013, 05:50 PM

Quit running tubes in 1980. Like taking 14lbs off your rear spinning or axle weight.

Eddies66 · 01-08-2013, 06:06 PM

http://www.dragracingonline.com/tech...retubes-1.html

Ed Wright · 01-08-2013, 06:44 PM

I quite running tubes in the early '70s. Got tired of pinching the tubes and having tires go flat between rounds. The old bias tires would sometimes pinch the tube at the launch. Carroll Caudle and I both had that happen about a week apart. We both ruined tires by the time we got our cars stopped. He was the first (between the two of us) to try it tubeless. His car also picked up ET & MPH tubeless. I changed over and picked up also. Those old Firestones would just about go flat during the week. My MT & Goodyear radials hold air just fine. Seldom loose any at all between races. The Hoosier radials I ran before didn't leak either. As much air as I run in my radials, I don't even run screws.

Had one of those guys that always seem to have a beer in their hand walk by once (had Hoosiers then) and tell me "You had better put screws in your wheels! Your tires are slipping on the wheels!" I didn't walk back to check, but asked him "Is the letter i in Hoosier lined up with the valve stem?" He looked and said "Yes!" I said "Dang! Must slip back to the same place every time!" Not sure he even got it. :-)

TOSTO RACING · 01-08-2013, 08:36 PM

I personally like the tubes on a stick car, like you said Joe stiffer sidewalls, they don't break down as quick. Its personal preference though. I've ran them both and literally have seen no diff in et myself. Your car may be different. I also like the fact of them not leaking down every 10 minutes lol. I guess if ditched the tubes and beadlocks I might have made INDY last year some guys say lol.

joespanova · 01-08-2013, 08:53 PM

Thanks........I'm still confused LOL

joespanova · 01-08-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Colvert

Quit running tubes in 1980. Like taking 14lbs off your rear spinning or axle weight.

Yeah , I hear ya ......I'm probably going to try no tubes.........I am leery about no screws though.

Notch1320 · 01-08-2013, 11:20 PM

No tubes here.... As for not wanting to run screws, many use Permatex HI-TAC on the beads or contact Weld an look into their Knurled Bead option.

Ed Carpenter · 01-09-2013, 12:03 AM

No tubes

01-08-2013, 02:22 PM	#1
joespanova Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ga. Posts: 521 Likes: 7 Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Stick cars , tubes or no tubes I just put some new rubber on my Nova and I'm thinking of ditching the tubes. I had 14-32 C07 Hoosiers , now have the 13.5 -31.5 same compound. The car may have liked the additional sidewall stiffness with the tubes and I know I liked the fact that they held air all the time..........however , any opinions? Thanks

01-08-2013, 04:18 PM	#2
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,372 Likes: 354 Liked 307 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes Ditch'em you'll be glad Mike Taylor 3601

01-08-2013, 05:50 PM	#3
Jeff Colvert Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkadelphia, AR Posts: 289 Likes: 8 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes Quit running tubes in 1980. Like taking 14lbs off your rear spinning or axle weight. __________________ Jeff Colvert SS/G,F,GT/B 4456

01-08-2013, 06:06 PM	#4
Eddies66 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Rancho Mirage, CA Posts: 1,308 Likes: 300 Liked 881 Times in 452 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes http://www.dragracingonline.com/tech...retubes-1.html

01-08-2013, 06:44 PM	#5
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes I quite running tubes in the early '70s. Got tired of pinching the tubes and having tires go flat between rounds. The old bias tires would sometimes pinch the tube at the launch. Carroll Caudle and I both had that happen about a week apart. We both ruined tires by the time we got our cars stopped. He was the first (between the two of us) to try it tubeless. His car also picked up ET & MPH tubeless. I changed over and picked up also. Those old Firestones would just about go flat during the week. My MT & Goodyear radials hold air just fine. Seldom loose any at all between races. The Hoosier radials I ran before didn't leak either. As much air as I run in my radials, I don't even run screws. Had one of those guys that always seem to have a beer in their hand walk by once (had Hoosiers then) and tell me "You had better put screws in your wheels! Your tires are slipping on the wheels!" I didn't walk back to check, but asked him "Is the letter i in Hoosier lined up with the valve stem?" He looked and said "Yes!" I said "Dang! Must slip back to the same place every time!" Not sure he even got it. :-) __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-08-2013, 08:36 PM	#6
TOSTO RACING Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: DRAGSTRIP Posts: 886 Likes: 883 Liked 652 Times in 184 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes I personally like the tubes on a stick car, like you said Joe stiffer sidewalls, they don't break down as quick. Its personal preference though. I've ran them both and literally have seen no diff in et myself. Your car may be different. I also like the fact of them not leaking down every 10 minutes lol. I guess if ditched the tubes and beadlocks I might have made INDY last year some guys say lol. __________________ 5664 GHI/SA 1985 CAMARO RED H/SA 1985 CAMARO BLUE I/SA Last edited by TOSTO RACING; 01-08-2013 at 08:38 PM.

01-08-2013, 08:53 PM	#7
joespanova Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ga. Posts: 521 Likes: 7 Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes Thanks........I'm still confused LOL

01-08-2013, 11:20 PM	#9
Notch1320 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yuba City, CA Posts: 220 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes No tubes here.... As for not wanting to run screws, many use Permatex HI-TAC on the beads or contact Weld an look into their Knurled Bead option. __________________ Shawn Allsup K/S 718

01-09-2013, 12:03 AM	#10
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes No tubes __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development