rod bearings recommendation

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 06-16-2013, 08:38 PM

Working on our old 283 for local combo races. Currently checking clearances and need some recommendations/help on rod bearings. Standard rod journal size.

Also need some help on bearing identification on old bearings. Only marking I can see is the number "2993" and a stamp of some type. Not able to recognize stamp. They are at least 25 yrs old.

thanks

Ed

Lew Silverman · 06-16-2013, 10:30 PM

I've been using the Clevite H-Series Tri-Armor coated bearing for my small-journal 327. Competition Products had a number of different sizes available. I know that King also has the small-journal bearings in their most recent catalog, and they make a quality product.

No guess on the old shells, I'm afraid. A lot of companies made engine bearings back when that motor was new, but it would make an interesting search! Could you take a picture of the number/stamp?

Good luck with your 283 project! What's in going in?

Lew

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 06-16-2013, 11:14 PM

Lew,
thanks... Will look into the "H" series. Any performance over the "P" series?

Yes, I can get a pic and attempt to post. May need help from some of the pros to post.

It's going back into a 66 chevy2 wagon. Hoping to get things together later this year and have some fun again.

Ed

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 06-17-2013, 06:48 PM

As a follow-up to the 283 build, does anyone recognize the stamp and number for this rod bearing? Again, it's at least 25yrs old. Disregard the background...I just propped the bearing up against a box to take pic. thanks for any input.

Ed

Rich Biebel · 06-18-2013, 07:02 PM

Looks like a VanderVel logo....and that is my guess....

They were around 25 years ago and I used them on some engines

Clevitte did not make H bearings yet...and the VanderVels were good...

They usually had a little more clearance than a Clevitte....

VanderVel is part of Mahle now and so is Clevitte I believe...

We used Clevittes in almost every engine as well as some C&A's and VanderVels occasionally.....

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 06-18-2013, 07:17 PM

Rich,
thanks for the info. I went to dad's this afternoon and found some 350 bearings with the same stamp. The good news is they were still in the box and it was a VanderVels box. They were also old as well. Dad hardly ever throws things away...it just takes time to find stuff.

Ed

danny waters sr · 06-18-2013, 07:35 PM

Glad you all are coming back......have fun

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 06-18-2013, 07:49 PM

Danny,
It has been a long time since it was run. It will also be a slow process coming back. Not sure when will complete, but you got to start somewhere.

And you are correct, the main goal is to have some fun!

Ed

Lew Silverman · 06-18-2013, 09:24 PM

And it appears that the number "2993" is the rod journal diameter (2.2993), Vandervell Set VP768.

Adger Smith · 06-18-2013, 10:30 PM

Clevite gobbled up Vandy bearing Co. In the past you could get the same Vandy material you just add V to the Clevite bearing part number and dropping the 'H" or "P".. For instance CB 745H becomes CB745V. BTW: CB745 is the SJ Chevy number. The "V" material formula is a little softer and more forgiving than the harder "H". It works well in applications that the crank flexes a lot and the oil film gets so thin the bearing bumps the crank. IE: 282-327 SJ Engines.

06-16-2013, 08:38 PM	#1
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	rod bearings recommendation Working on our old 283 for local combo races. Currently checking clearances and need some recommendations/help on rod bearings. Standard rod journal size. Also need some help on bearing identification on old bearings. Only marking I can see is the number "2993" and a stamp of some type. Not able to recognize stamp. They are at least 25 yrs old. thanks Ed

06-16-2013, 10:30 PM	#2
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation I've been using the Clevite H-Series Tri-Armor coated bearing for my small-journal 327. Competition Products had a number of different sizes available. I know that King also has the small-journal bearings in their most recent catalog, and they make a quality product. No guess on the old shells, I'm afraid. A lot of companies made engine bearings back when that motor was new, but it would make an interesting search! Could you take a picture of the number/stamp? Good luck with your 283 project! What's in going in? Lew __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

06-16-2013, 11:14 PM	#3
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Lew, thanks... Will look into the "H" series. Any performance over the "P" series? Yes, I can get a pic and attempt to post. May need help from some of the pros to post. It's going back into a 66 chevy2 wagon. Hoping to get things together later this year and have some fun again. Ed

06-17-2013, 06:48 PM	#4
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation As a follow-up to the 283 build, does anyone recognize the stamp and number for this rod bearing? Again, it's at least 25yrs old. Disregard the background...I just propped the bearing up against a box to take pic. thanks for any input. Ed Attached Thumbnails

06-18-2013, 07:02 PM	#5
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Looks like a VanderVel logo....and that is my guess.... They were around 25 years ago and I used them on some engines Clevitte did not make H bearings yet...and the VanderVels were good... They usually had a little more clearance than a Clevitte.... VanderVel is part of Mahle now and so is Clevitte I believe... We used Clevittes in almost every engine as well as some C&A's and VanderVels occasionally..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

06-18-2013, 07:17 PM	#6
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Rich, thanks for the info. I went to dad's this afternoon and found some 350 bearings with the same stamp. The good news is they were still in the box and it was a VanderVels box. They were also old as well. Dad hardly ever throws things away...it just takes time to find stuff. Ed

06-18-2013, 07:35 PM	#7
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Glad you all are coming back......have fun __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

06-18-2013, 07:49 PM	#8
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Danny, It has been a long time since it was run. It will also be a slow process coming back. Not sure when will complete, but you got to start somewhere. And you are correct, the main goal is to have some fun! Ed

06-18-2013, 09:24 PM	#9
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation And it appears that the number "2993" is the rod journal diameter (2.2993), Vandervell Set VP768. __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

06-18-2013, 10:30 PM	#10
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: rod bearings recommendation Clevite gobbled up Vandy bearing Co. In the past you could get the same Vandy material you just add V to the Clevite bearing part number and dropping the 'H" or "P".. For instance CB 745H becomes CB745V. BTW: CB745 is the SJ Chevy number. The "V" material formula is a little softer and more forgiving than the harder "H". It works well in applications that the crank flexes a lot and the oil film gets so thin the bearing bumps the crank. IE: 282-327 SJ Engines. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)