Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts

Adger Smith · 03-08-2014, 10:35 AM

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...iacontentstory
Why destroy 93 Vipers?
There are other ways to handle this situation.

I got this from one of my friends that is a DP and Viper owner.
This is a sad deal.

Ed Wright · 03-08-2014, 10:54 AM

Crazy.

NHRA1971 · 03-08-2014, 10:59 AM

It's not like years ago when the guys that worked for car company's were car guys. These DHs don't care 1 bit about the cars. All they care about is the bottom line. To them these cars are just like a box of cookie's it is only a product. So who care's what happen's to them. Sad what the world has become.

fordteacherguy · 03-08-2014, 11:11 AM

I'm a trainer for our Ford ASSET technician training apprenticeship program and deal with these issues all the time. We are grateful when we get free donated cars from the manufacturer to train with, it keeps our training programs up to date with current automotive technology.

Yes it's seems nuts to crush these beautiful cars, but since these prototypes vehicles have no titles /branded titles/or no assigned VIN there are clear stipulations from the manufacturer in their donation process that when those cars are donated to educational training institutions they can't:
Drive them on the street
Sell parts for profit
Try to license them
Race them

In the case of the Vipers, Because there are no titles on these donated vehicles to sever the liability from the manufacture /the manufacture is legally liable hence /crush them all. May not seem right, but in today's legal world it's a necessity and from a purely teaching standpoint the technology is outdated. But the Viper still is a always will be a beautiful and cool car.

Pete Beau · 03-08-2014, 11:46 AM

My father was on the engineering team for the Chrysler Turbine car. Because it was a government collaboration when the program got canceled they ordered all of the cars to be destroyed. Fortunately a few got 'snuck-out' the back door.

Myron Piatek · 03-08-2014, 01:02 PM

Haven't the car companies given pre-production cars, "test mules", etc. to people to make into race cars only? Or have things gotten so sticky that they don't/can't do that anymore either?

Harry 6674 · 03-08-2014, 01:05 PM

Why couldn't they sell them to drag racers like the DP program. No titles no Vins no problem. Just plain silly.

Doug McCue · 03-08-2014, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

I'm a trainer for our Ford ASSET technician training apprenticeship program and deal with these issues all the time. We are grateful when we get free donated cars from the manufacturer to train with, it keeps our training programs up to date with current automotive technology.

Yes it's seems nuts to crush these beautiful cars, but since these prototypes vehicles have no titles /branded titles/or no assigned VIN there are clear stipulations from the manufacturer in their donation process that when those cars are donated to educational training institutions they can't:
Drive them on the street
Sell parts for profit
Try to license them
Race them

In the case of the Vipers, Because there are no titles on these donated vehicles to sever the liability from the manufacture /the manufacture is legally liable hence /crush them all. May not seem right, but in today's legal world it's a necessity and from a purely teaching standpoint the technology is outdated. But the Viper still is a always will be a beautiful and cool car.

could you go down and get a lost title and add a new vin given to you by the court house? Like when you build a car from scratch.

bigshow2966 · 03-08-2014, 02:32 PM

Prototypes are always "supposed" to be crushed, been that way for many years. Part of the issue with them is EPA compliance too.

I had the pleasure of chatting with some of the engineers on the GNX program. They were there driving GNX prototype #7. I asked them what was going to happen to the car when they were done with it and one of them winked at me and said it would be crushed. I always wondered which one of them ended up with it. It had 3200 miles on it and the rear tires were almost showing cords.

Rumor has it on the Mopar boards that one of the donated Vipers was involved in an on street accident, hence the order for all of them to be turned in and crushed. I do believe that their claim the car is worth "hundreds of thousands" is a bit of a stretch.

Andys dad · 03-08-2014, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Prototypes are always "supposed" to be crushed, been that way for many years. Part of the issue with them is EPA compliance too.

I had the pleasure of chatting with some of the engineers on the GNX program. They were there driving GNX prototype #7. I asked them what was going to happen to the car when they were done with it and one of them winked at me and said it would be crushed. I always wondered which one of them ended up with it. It had 3200 miles on it and the rear tires were almost showing cords.

Rumor has it on the Mopar boards that one of the donated Vipers was involved in an on street accident, hence the order for all of them to be turned in and crushed. I do believe that their claim the car is worth "hundreds of thousands" is a bit of a stretch.

Even at $10 grand a piece it would have been nearly a million dollars

As an interested by stander

Ron

03-08-2014, 10:35 AM	#1
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...iacontentstory Why destroy 93 Vipers? There are other ways to handle this situation. I got this from one of my friends that is a DP and Viper owner. This is a sad deal. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 03-08-2014 at 10:37 AM. Reason: sp

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts Crazy. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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NHRA1971 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts It's not like years ago when the guys that worked for car company's were car guys. These DHs don't care 1 bit about the cars. All they care about is the bottom line. To them these cars are just like a box of cookie's it is only a product. So who care's what happen's to them. Sad what the world has become.

03-08-2014, 11:11 AM	#4
fordteacherguy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 238 Likes: 37 Liked 160 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts I'm a trainer for our Ford ASSET technician training apprenticeship program and deal with these issues all the time. We are grateful when we get free donated cars from the manufacturer to train with, it keeps our training programs up to date with current automotive technology. Yes it's seems nuts to crush these beautiful cars, but since these prototypes vehicles have no titles /branded titles/or no assigned VIN there are clear stipulations from the manufacturer in their donation process that when those cars are donated to educational training institutions they can't: Drive them on the street Sell parts for profit Try to license them Race them In the case of the Vipers, Because there are no titles on these donated vehicles to sever the liability from the manufacture /the manufacture is legally liable hence /crush them all. May not seem right, but in today's legal world it's a necessity and from a purely teaching standpoint the technology is outdated. But the Viper still is a always will be a beautiful and cool car. Last edited by fordteacherguy; 03-08-2014 at 11:29 AM.

03-08-2014, 11:46 AM	#5
Pete Beau Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mo-ta City Posts: 247 Likes: 59 Liked 31 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts My father was on the engineering team for the Chrysler Turbine car. Because it was a government collaboration when the program got canceled they ordered all of the cars to be destroyed. Fortunately a few got 'snuck-out' the back door.

03-08-2014, 01:02 PM	#6
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts Haven't the car companies given pre-production cars, "test mules", etc. to people to make into race cars only? Or have things gotten so sticky that they don't/can't do that anymore either? __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

03-08-2014, 01:05 PM	#7
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts Why couldn't they sell them to drag racers like the DP program. No titles no Vins no problem. Just plain silly.

03-08-2014, 02:32 PM	#9
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 675 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts Prototypes are always "supposed" to be crushed, been that way for many years. Part of the issue with them is EPA compliance too. I had the pleasure of chatting with some of the engineers on the GNX program. They were there driving GNX prototype #7. I asked them what was going to happen to the car when they were done with it and one of them winked at me and said it would be crushed. I always wondered which one of them ended up with it. It had 3200 miles on it and the rear tires were almost showing cords. Rumor has it on the Mopar boards that one of the donated Vipers was involved in an on street accident, hence the order for all of them to be turned in and crushed. I do believe that their claim the car is worth "hundreds of thousands" is a bit of a stretch.