Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker???

JP · 04-18-2008, 12:20 PM

Any updates on this subject? Rumors, facts?

Chuck Norton · 04-18-2008, 03:32 PM

Tom, I think that Allpar.com was just scratching the surface with that press release. The word is that this is the REAL deal, 1968 all over again! I've heard that least one successful west coast team is setting up to put one or more of these cars on the track in short order as soon as they are ready for delivery. Possibly, a Stocker and a Super Stocker. For all we know, there are already several of them in the final preparation stages around the country.

Reading between the lines and combining information from several sources leads me to believe that these cars will not be produced as assembly-line Challengers simply released by the factory to the general public, but will be set up for the best pieces that drag racing technology can provide. Leaf springs, aftermarket brakes, solid rear axle options, accessory delete packages, etc. will make them truly unique platforms, fully homologated for Stock/SS application.

Sounds like Chrysler Corporation remembers how to "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday!

c

bill dedman · 04-18-2008, 05:02 PM

I only hope that the NHRA employee who factored the '67 GT500 "Shelby" Mustangs (and, not the fellow who added factored horsepower to the single 4-bbl NASCAR 426 Hemi before one ever hit the strip) gets the assignment to assign a factor to these cars. It goes without saying, the stroke of a pen can make or break this whole deal...

denny harvey · 04-18-2008, 05:46 PM

with that motor and spec sheet on that car, it would get killed in aa/sa.but maybe mopar can get nhra to come up with aa/sa/ah..lol

Jeff Lee · 04-18-2008, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny harvey

with that motor and spec sheet on that car, it would get killed in aa/sa.but maybe mopar can get nhra to come up with aa/sa/ah..lol

Why?

The machine shop I use just took a stock, crate motor 6.1L 425HP Hemi (SRT8 engine). Changed to bigger injectors, re-curve ignition, re-calibrate fuel. With stock exhaust manifolds (no cat's) and all accessories, made 550 HP. A modified induction version (had 8 throttle bodies like an old short-stack Hilborne) made 600 HP. I imagine this 392 Hemi should be somewhat better...

denny harvey · 04-19-2008, 03:47 PM

i am sure a ls-7 zo6 with those mods would respond just as well,i just dont see the big deal on this car [unless your a mopar guy ]the cost to buy and built it into a fast aa/sa could be done on any make you choose.now your car jeff i think is awesome,i have read alot of your posts on other fourms about clutch help,and have used your advice on setting up my soft-loc and i do appreciate it,i have it close now,the jerico goes back in this weekend..everyone loves one brand over another,but this car is no greater then a zo6 or mustang cobra .imo..denny

Jeff Lee · 04-19-2008, 05:37 PM

For me, it's not a brand favorite issue.Although I love the fact Dodge, Chevy, Pontiac, Ford & Shelby now have bitchin' muscle cars. And I agree with you, there isn't a better engine out there than the new LS7 Z06 engine. I hope they place that in the new Camaro! What seperates this race Challenger from the street challenger is the fact it is 800# lighter. It also gets a bigger race only engine and a cool scoop on the hood. Other than the Z06, the others are pretty porky street cars.
I envy anybody that gets to race one of these new cars!!!

Alan Roehrich · 04-19-2008, 07:45 PM

Have you looked at the NHRA factor for the LS7? If GM puts the LS7 in the 2009 Camaro, it'll have to weigh near 4000# to run in AA. The actual number is 3958#. Somehow, I just do not see that as a competitive combination. I'm not real sure the LS3 would even be competitive. That's not just my opinion, but the opinion of several more knowledgeable than me.

Hemiparts · 06-13-2008, 11:57 AM

Chrysler will be building these cars "out of house" much in the same way the Barracuda's & the Dart's were built. The will be spec'ed to run as a stock class car, and will only be availble to customers who are already stock or super stock racers.

Don Kennedy · 06-13-2008, 12:57 PM

Chuck Norton is that you??

We do appreciate that one of the best person who can articulate very well in writing has come out to again beginning to post more . I know he would come around some time must be his age and the fact that I have given him a bad time for not posting more or maybe he has turned around into a conservative and will vote republican LOL

Yes it is a good day

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Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 472 Likes: 99 Liked 76 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? Tom, I think that Allpar.com was just scratching the surface with that press release. The word is that this is the REAL deal, 1968 all over again! I've heard that least one successful west coast team is setting up to put one or more of these cars on the track in short order as soon as they are ready for delivery. Possibly, a Stocker and a Super Stocker. For all we know, there are already several of them in the final preparation stages around the country. Reading between the lines and combining information from several sources leads me to believe that these cars will not be produced as assembly-line Challengers simply released by the factory to the general public, but will be set up for the best pieces that drag racing technology can provide. Leaf springs, aftermarket brakes, solid rear axle options, accessory delete packages, etc. will make them truly unique platforms, fully homologated for Stock/SS application. Sounds like Chrysler Corporation remembers how to "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday! c

04-18-2008, 05:02 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? I only hope that the NHRA employee who factored the '67 GT500 "Shelby" Mustangs (and, not the fellow who added factored horsepower to the single 4-bbl NASCAR 426 Hemi before one ever hit the strip) gets the assignment to assign a factor to these cars. It goes without saying, the stroke of a pen can make or break this whole deal... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-18-2008 at 05:06 PM.

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denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? with that motor and spec sheet on that car, it would get killed in aa/sa.but maybe mopar can get nhra to come up with aa/sa/ah..lol

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denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? i am sure a ls-7 zo6 with those mods would respond just as well,i just dont see the big deal on this car [unless your a mopar guy ]the cost to buy and built it into a fast aa/sa could be done on any make you choose.now your car jeff i think is awesome,i have read alot of your posts on other fourms about clutch help,and have used your advice on setting up my soft-loc and i do appreciate it,i have it close now,the jerico goes back in this weekend..everyone loves one brand over another,but this car is no greater then a zo6 or mustang cobra .imo..denny

04-19-2008, 05:37 PM	#7
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? For me, it's not a brand favorite issue.Although I love the fact Dodge, Chevy, Pontiac, Ford & Shelby now have bitchin' muscle cars. And I agree with you, there isn't a better engine out there than the new LS7 Z06 engine. I hope they place that in the new Camaro! What seperates this race Challenger from the street challenger is the fact it is 800# lighter. It also gets a bigger race only engine and a cool scoop on the hood. Other than the Z06, the others are pretty porky street cars. I envy anybody that gets to race one of these new cars!!! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-19-2008, 07:45 PM	#8
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,098 Likes: 1,550 Liked 1,778 Times in 404 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? Have you looked at the NHRA factor for the LS7? If GM puts the LS7 in the 2009 Camaro, it'll have to weigh near 4000# to run in AA. The actual number is 3958#. Somehow, I just do not see that as a competitive combination. I'm not real sure the LS3 would even be competitive. That's not just my opinion, but the opinion of several more knowledgeable than me. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

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Hemiparts Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C Posts: 212 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? Chrysler will be building these cars "out of house" much in the same way the Barracuda's & the Dart's were built. The will be spec'ed to run as a stock class car, and will only be availble to customers who are already stock or super stock racers.

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Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,873 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Will the '08 Challenger be a legal Nhra AA/SA Stocker??? Chuck Norton is that you?? We do appreciate that one of the best person who can articulate very well in writing has come out to again beginning to post more . I know he would come around some time must be his age and the fact that I have given him a bad time for not posting more or maybe he has turned around into a conservative and will vote republican LOL Yes it is a good day __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS