5.0 Ford cam, thoughts??

7423 · 05-26-2009, 10:31 PM

1994 Mustang Gt, fits O/SA, 3395lbs, .30 inch tire, 5.13 gear, 9 inch convertor, flashes to 4200, AODE with a 2.84 low gear, E shift, leave chipped at 2000 to stay green. 444 oem lift. I am working towards the index and need a little more. I have a 242/246 duration @ 050 hydrulic roller made by a local cam company in the car now but I am not sure if it is any better running than the OEM cam. Need to try something different. I am running the original 100,000 mile long block and using it as my learning curve in my fuel injection education. I have made lots of progress but need a bit more. Any thoughts?
Thanks much
Charlie Allen 7423

Rory McNeil · 05-27-2009, 12:03 AM

I`m curious why you chose a AOd instead of a C4. As I understand it, the AOD saps a bunch more power than the C4. As for a cam, I`d just call John Partridge at Bullet Cams, and give him your info.

Mike Graham · 05-27-2009, 09:58 AM

Charlie
I think you might want to loosen the converter a bunch.

Chris1529 · 05-27-2009, 10:04 AM

That is alot of duration to be leaving at that low of an rpm. what rpm are you running through the traps?
The cam you have may need advanced a little.

what are your 60' times?

7423 · 05-27-2009, 06:16 PM

Rory
I have heard that the AODE may be holding me back some. I would love to hear from someone who has run the AODE and a C4 and really knows the difference on a time slip.
Mike
I have thought about a looser convertor, I was afraid it would never lock up in high and lose all I would gain in low gear.
Chris
It is at 5800 in the traps. Shifts at 6000-6200. Best 60 is 1.78. Best ET is 13.94 @ 95MPH at 3000DA
Thanks for input boys
Charlie

Chris1529 · 05-27-2009, 07:20 PM

Does the AODE have a lock-up converter? I used to run the original AOD in my car. It had the two piece input shaft that actually locked up 1 to 1 like a stick car in drive. It really killed the car on the 2-3 shift though.

If you switch to a C-4, make sure you get a full roller/race version with a low gear set.
I went from the AOD to a street/strip C4 with very little difference. Same brand of converter (PTC).
More top end rpm and I believe about 2 mph.

Do you know anyone you could borrow a set of 28" tires from? I would try them too.

greg fulk · 05-27-2009, 07:45 PM

Add 10 degrees to you cam #'s put a C4 in it with 2.91 low gear & call ATI for a converter!

Swandog · 05-28-2009, 12:00 AM

I can't comment on the transmission issue....however, are you still using a stock 94/95 EEC? Older EEC's do not pull timing on the shift.

larry dowty · 05-28-2009, 04:13 PM

charlie we have the same car so i can give you some numbers tomm. i go to the chassis dyno then to the track for the first time i will pm you with my info i have a bullet cam like rory said.

7423 · 05-28-2009, 04:26 PM

Chris
I am using a non lock up after convertor in that AODE
Swandog
I have programed my Tweecer to eliminate the retard when shifting.
Larry
I will be looking foward to that PM. Best of luck to you.
Charlie

05-26-2009, 10:31 PM	#1
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? 1994 Mustang Gt, fits O/SA, 3395lbs, .30 inch tire, 5.13 gear, 9 inch convertor, flashes to 4200, AODE with a 2.84 low gear, E shift, leave chipped at 2000 to stay green. 444 oem lift. I am working towards the index and need a little more. I have a 242/246 duration @ 050 hydrulic roller made by a local cam company in the car now but I am not sure if it is any better running than the OEM cam. Need to try something different. I am running the original 100,000 mile long block and using it as my learning curve in my fuel injection education. I have made lots of progress but need a bit more. Any thoughts? Thanks much Charlie Allen 7423

05-27-2009, 12:03 AM	#2
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? I`m curious why you chose a AOd instead of a C4. As I understand it, the AOD saps a bunch more power than the C4. As for a cam, I`d just call John Partridge at Bullet Cams, and give him your info. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

05-27-2009, 09:58 AM	#3
Mike Graham Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 410 Likes: 1 Liked 341 Times in 67 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? Charlie I think you might want to loosen the converter a bunch.

05-27-2009, 10:04 AM	#4
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? That is alot of duration to be leaving at that low of an rpm. what rpm are you running through the traps? The cam you have may need advanced a little. what are your 60' times? __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

05-27-2009, 06:16 PM	#5
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? Rory I have heard that the AODE may be holding me back some. I would love to hear from someone who has run the AODE and a C4 and really knows the difference on a time slip. Mike I have thought about a looser convertor, I was afraid it would never lock up in high and lose all I would gain in low gear. Chris It is at 5800 in the traps. Shifts at 6000-6200. Best 60 is 1.78. Best ET is 13.94 @ 95MPH at 3000DA Thanks for input boys Charlie

05-27-2009, 07:20 PM	#6
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? Does the AODE have a lock-up converter? I used to run the original AOD in my car. It had the two piece input shaft that actually locked up 1 to 1 like a stick car in drive. It really killed the car on the 2-3 shift though. If you switch to a C-4, make sure you get a full roller/race version with a low gear set. I went from the AOD to a street/strip C4 with very little difference. Same brand of converter (PTC). More top end rpm and I believe about 2 mph. Do you know anyone you could borrow a set of 28" tires from? I would try them too. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

05-27-2009, 07:45 PM	#7
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? Add 10 degrees to you cam #'s put a C4 in it with 2.91 low gear & call ATI for a converter! __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

05-28-2009, 12:00 AM	#8
Swandog Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canadian Prairies Posts: 21 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? I can't comment on the transmission issue....however, are you still using a stock 94/95 EEC? Older EEC's do not pull timing on the shift.

05-28-2009, 04:13 PM	#9
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? charlie we have the same car so i can give you some numbers tomm. i go to the chassis dyno then to the track for the first time i will pm you with my info i have a bullet cam like rory said. __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS

05-28-2009, 04:26 PM	#10
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 5.0 Ford cam, thoughts?? Chris I am using a non lock up after convertor in that AODE Swandog I have programed my Tweecer to eliminate the retard when shifting. Larry I will be looking foward to that PM. Best of luck to you. Charlie