oil retention devices

Denny Steward · 03-29-2010, 06:29 PM

From: Bob Lang
Sent: Tue 3/23/2010 9:11 AM
To: Jeff Teuton; Jim Bailey; Jim Mantle; Jimmy DeFrank; Kent Hanley; Mike Crutchfield; Monty Jones
Subject: Oil Retention

Hello all,

I have been talking with the NHRA Stock - Super Stock Committee and they are in favor of oil retention device for the Super Stock in 2011 and Stock in 2012. Two main reasons I want them, one is to solve the problem of blowing an engine and getting oil under the tires resulting in loss of control and obviously to help with keeping the oil off the race track.

With that said, there are a number of problems with standard Super Stock and Stock cars as far as fit up and clearance to the frame, headers, starters and the list goes on, along with the ability to service the car.

I am seeking input as far as how we can make these retention devices work for all of us.

Thank you

Bob Lang
NHRA Northeast Division Director
366 Easton Road
Warrington, PA. 18976
Phone - 215-343-2558
Fax 215-343-0159
Website – nhradiv1.com
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GarysZ24 · 03-29-2010, 07:08 PM

I don't like this ideal and hope it doesn't happen, but who am I ...I just race a fwd stocker. I've been a fan of Stock/Super Stock since1975, and in all of those years, I've seldom (if ever) seen/heard of any of our cars oiling a track. The cars that have them now, are the cars that should have them...not our categories! Am I alone in this opinion?

Gary Parker · 03-29-2010, 07:17 PM

What if I promise not to blow my engine up?

Ed Fernandez · 03-29-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24

I don't like this ideal and hope it doesn't happen, but who am I ...I just race a fwd stocker. I've been a fan of Stock/Super Stock since1975, and in all of those years, I've seldom (if ever) seen/heard of any of our cars oiling a track. The cars that have them now, are the cars that should have them...not our categories! Am I alone in this opinion?

I would imagine getting a retention devise (catchy name eh?) would be a real engineering feat on a FWD car.

GarysZ24 · 03-29-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I would imagine getting a retention devise (catchy name eh?) would be a real engineering feat on a FWD car.

You've got that right Ed....

mannymen · 03-29-2010, 07:56 PM

NHRA can always say I don't care about your chassis problems and say make it fit like they did with the muffler rule back in the late 90's. A lot of super gassers, streeters etc.. had to make big modifications to their flooring and chassis's to get the Borla XR1's to fit properly.

Rick Bailey · 03-29-2010, 08:05 PM

And if I remember it right......only the SS and S guys had the stones to tell NHRA to piss up a rope!

Rick

DIAPERMAN · 03-29-2010, 08:21 PM

SPS I am not going to get into arguements over this,But you are wrong we have done several of these cars at least 50 drag links in pan, to headers 1/8 th of a inch from pan .This is all we do is build diapers so I do take this statement to be offensive.We have sold over 6500 diapers many on Comp,Stock and Super Stock Like I said I will not get in a pissing mach over this if someone wants help with diapers call me This will be my last post on this thread Thanks

Jack Matyas · 03-29-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DIAPERMAN

SPS I am not going to get into arguements over this,But you are wrong we have done several of these cars at least 50 drag links in pan, to headers 1/8 th of a inch from pan .This is all we do is build diapers so I do take this statement to be offensive.We have sold over 6500 diapers many on Comp,Stock and Super Stock Like I said I will not get in a pissing mach over this if someone wants help with diapers call me This will be my last post on this thread Thanks

Diaperman -- Sorry but it just looks bad you posting on this subject as you're the only one to benefit if this new rule comes into play and we all have to pay .Glad you're not going to post more on this ..............let it up to the rules makers .

Doug Blackley · 03-29-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Parker

What if I promise not to blow my engine up?

That's a classic!

03-29-2010, 06:29 PM	#1
Denny Steward Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PORT ORANGE FL Posts: 283 Likes: 408 Liked 131 Times in 24 Posts	oil retention devices From: Bob Lang Sent: Tue 3/23/2010 9:11 AM To: Jeff Teuton; Jim Bailey; Jim Mantle; Jimmy DeFrank; Kent Hanley; Mike Crutchfield; Monty Jones Subject: Oil Retention Hello all, I have been talking with the NHRA Stock - Super Stock Committee and they are in favor of oil retention device for the Super Stock in 2011 and Stock in 2012. Two main reasons I want them, one is to solve the problem of blowing an engine and getting oil under the tires resulting in loss of control and obviously to help with keeping the oil off the race track. With that said, there are a number of problems with standard Super Stock and Stock cars as far as fit up and clearance to the frame, headers, starters and the list goes on, along with the ability to service the car. I am seeking input as far as how we can make these retention devices work for all of us. Thank you Bob Lang NHRA Northeast Division Director 366 Easton Road Warrington, PA. 18976 Phone - 215-343-2558 Fax 215-343-0159 Website – nhradiv1.com Are you an NHRA member yet? Join today! http://www.NHRA.com/join.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message Thread:

03-29-2010, 07:08 PM	#2
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,270 Likes: 918 Liked 238 Times in 94 Posts	Re: oil retention devices I don't like this ideal and hope it doesn't happen, but who am I ...I just race a fwd stocker. I've been a fan of Stock/Super Stock since1975, and in all of those years, I've seldom (if ever) seen/heard of any of our cars oiling a track. The cars that have them now, are the cars that should have them...not our categories! Am I alone in this opinion? __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

03-29-2010, 07:17 PM	#3
Gary Parker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Westfield Mass Posts: 529 Likes: 368 Liked 425 Times in 56 Posts	Re: oil retention devices What if I promise not to blow my engine up? __________________ Gary Parker 1617 STK

03-29-2010, 07:56 PM	#6
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: oil retention devices NHRA can always say I don't care about your chassis problems and say make it fit like they did with the muffler rule back in the late 90's. A lot of super gassers, streeters etc.. had to make big modifications to their flooring and chassis's to get the Borla XR1's to fit properly. __________________ N/A

03-29-2010, 08:05 PM	#7
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: oil retention devices And if I remember it right......only the SS and S guys had the stones to tell NHRA to piss up a rope! Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

03-29-2010, 08:21 PM	#8
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: oil retention devices SPS I am not going to get into arguements over this,But you are wrong we have done several of these cars at least 50 drag links in pan, to headers 1/8 th of a inch from pan .This is all we do is build diapers so I do take this statement to be offensive.We have sold over 6500 diapers many on Comp,Stock and Super Stock Like I said I will not get in a pissing mach over this if someone wants help with diapers call me This will be my last post on this thread Thanks