Rumors from Sonoma.............

7423 · 07-26-2009, 12:44 PM

Let me preface this by saying that this is a rumor and we all know how they fly around the pits. I have heard that NHRA is tired of taking money from their pockets to support the purse for Stock and Super Stock due to the low car counts at Nationals. A combo with one purse may be their thoughts. Comp may be in for some serious changes also. Could this be the wave of the future?? Is NHRA's check book fading or are they just making room for a bigger pro show with T/S and T/D on the way in??

sscrewcheif · 07-26-2009, 12:58 PM

well if they make it a combo the car count will probably fall even more. As far as taking money out of there pockets....well the sportsman racers are the ones filling there pockets! so why not give some back!?

Tom Meyer · 07-26-2009, 01:22 PM

They can hardly get a full field in the pro classes and they are worried about getting sportman cars there? I also think NHRA might be helping the no name teams just to have full fields. As far as TS and TD where do you think most of those cars come from, they are super comp and super gas cars with the stops off so then you cut those field down. It sounds like there is a little panic at NHRA . Just look at the entry lists nobody enters till the last week [ I have never looked does your money come out the day you enter] there cash flow has to be down. They need to relook at there operation but can,t because there heads are up somewhere and they can,t see whats going on in this country. While most of us are pulling are belts a little thighter nothing changes at Glendoras ivory tower.

The Hawk · 07-26-2009, 01:30 PM

I think a Combo would be kind of fun!

KEN BUGAJ · 07-26-2009, 02:16 PM

Crate Motor class ?
I know some of you don't want to hear it but it would help fill the fields.

Steve Williams · 07-26-2009, 02:24 PM

Combo at National event idea sucks. Good post Tom. NHRA missed their opportunity at the crate motor deal.

Steve

Bryan Broaddus · 07-26-2009, 03:04 PM

Thats funny!! We have been the ones responsible for our purse.

How could the NHRA possibly be paying out of their pocket? 1@$1200 winner 1@ $500 runner up 2@$350 semis, 4@$300 quarters is $3600. Even if you only had 20 cars at 250 dollars that would be $5000.

The Sportsman racers have been bankrolling the NHRA for a long time. Did they increase the payout when the car counts were high? No. Its time they got a taste of what we have been forced to chew on for a long time.

Maybe Tom, Graham and the others that have been enjoying success on our shoulders should take a pay cut like so many others in this county have been forced to do.

bsa633 · 07-27-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sscrewcheif

well if they make it a combo the car count will probably fall even more.

Probably the case...since most seem to go to modiied cars in SS to get an advantage the stockers will be even more at disadvantage in a combo...therefore even a less of total cars is probably true

west coast · 07-27-2009, 02:21 PM

A combo race would just kill car counts because it would turn into a Superstock race because they have the advantage of a transbrake with adjustable buttons, and have a better finish line view. Some can convert to SS but would be a duck hunt on the qualifing sheet for whatever class they are running. Then what about the people who run both classes they will not be happy touring sportsman. This would be like combine all of the ninety cars the dragster would dominate and cause lower car counts. Think about it this would become true. Lets start that rumor.

Chuck Porter · 07-27-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by west coast

A combo race would just kill car counts because it would turn into a Superstock race because they have the advantage of a transbrake with adjustable buttons, and have a better finish line view. Some can convert to SS but would be a duck hunt on the qualifing sheet for whatever class they are running. Then what about the people who run both classes they will not be happy touring sportsman. This would be like combine all of the ninety cars the dragster would dominate and cause lower car counts. Think about it this would become true. Lets start that rumor.

I have a little bit of experience with Combo races and I can't say there has been a disproportionate number of Super Stockers that win. I think it is pretty even and perhaps leaning towards more stockers in the final round. It is true a faster SS car has a better finish line view so does a fast stocker. Personally I think I can hold my own foot braking against a trans brake car. I can change my leave and move my reaction time around as most of us can. The SS cars still have to let go of the button on time. I race against trans brake cars most of the time and I see their reaction times on my time slip and not seeing any advantage.

I can't say I would be in favor of such a situation as this rumor suggests. I think Combo's have their place and that's not at the National or Divisional level. But for now it is just an unfounded rumor only and until its a fact, personally I'm not going to fret about it.

07-26-2009, 12:44 PM	#1
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rumors from Sonoma............. Let me preface this by saying that this is a rumor and we all know how they fly around the pits. I have heard that NHRA is tired of taking money from their pockets to support the purse for Stock and Super Stock due to the low car counts at Nationals. A combo with one purse may be their thoughts. Comp may be in for some serious changes also. Could this be the wave of the future?? Is NHRA's check book fading or are they just making room for a bigger pro show with T/S and T/D on the way in??

07-26-2009, 12:58 PM	#2
sscrewcheif Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: southern california Posts: 83 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. well if they make it a combo the car count will probably fall even more. As far as taking money out of there pockets....well the sportsman racers are the ones filling there pockets! so why not give some back!?

07-26-2009, 01:22 PM	#3
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. They can hardly get a full field in the pro classes and they are worried about getting sportman cars there? I also think NHRA might be helping the no name teams just to have full fields. As far as TS and TD where do you think most of those cars come from, they are super comp and super gas cars with the stops off so then you cut those field down. It sounds like there is a little panic at NHRA . Just look at the entry lists nobody enters till the last week [ I have never looked does your money come out the day you enter] there cash flow has to be down. They need to relook at there operation but can,t because there heads are up somewhere and they can,t see whats going on in this country. While most of us are pulling are belts a little thighter nothing changes at Glendoras ivory tower. __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 07-26-2009 at 07:54 PM. Reason: still on my soap box

07-26-2009, 01:30 PM	#4
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,194 Likes: 0 Liked 249 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. I think a Combo would be kind of fun! __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It

07-26-2009, 02:16 PM	#5
KEN BUGAJ Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: LEXINGTON NC. Posts: 389 Likes: 43 Liked 18 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. Crate Motor class ? I know some of you don't want to hear it but it would help fill the fields.

07-26-2009, 02:24 PM	#6
Steve Williams Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 352 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. Combo at National event idea sucks. Good post Tom. NHRA missed their opportunity at the crate motor deal. Steve

07-26-2009, 03:04 PM	#7
Bryan Broaddus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 104 Likes: 2 Liked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. Thats funny!! We have been the ones responsible for our purse. How could the NHRA possibly be paying out of their pocket? 1@$1200 winner 1@ $500 runner up 2@$350 semis, 4@$300 quarters is $3600. Even if you only had 20 cars at 250 dollars that would be $5000. The Sportsman racers have been bankrolling the NHRA for a long time. Did they increase the payout when the car counts were high? No. Its time they got a taste of what we have been forced to chew on for a long time. Maybe Tom, Graham and the others that have been enjoying success on our shoulders should take a pay cut like so many others in this county have been forced to do. __________________ Bryan Broaddus 7568 STK ,SS

07-27-2009, 02:21 PM	#9
west coast Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rainy Washington Posts: 609 Likes: 12 Liked 223 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. A combo race would just kill car counts because it would turn into a Superstock race because they have the advantage of a transbrake with adjustable buttons, and have a better finish line view. Some can convert to SS but would be a duck hunt on the qualifing sheet for whatever class they are running. Then what about the people who run both classes they will not be happy touring sportsman. This would be like combine all of the ninety cars the dragster would dominate and cause lower car counts. Think about it this would become true. Lets start that rumor.