Drooze has left the..........

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Building..... no just moved a few doors down to a Solo location.

Things went from being fun with the DP and straining personal relationships too much to be worth it. My way or the highway isnt going to cut it for 16 hr days.

So.....new projects and new plans, actually finally getting to plans that were mine all along now with the freedom afforded by my abscence in participation of the DP well........back to the races in short order. It will take about a month to finish the other Challenger, my 72 for S/SS/GT ? Still havent made final decisions on what to do with some items.

Thats if it dosent get traded, I have 2 interested parties in a trade and will probably be hopping down to St. Louis to look at one very soon.
Its not as "sexy" as the Challenger but a well done car with definite upsides on the chassis side. Things that I couldnt afford to do/buy/or have done in the 2 month timeline from today to have my own car to the track.

It will take almost 1.5 weeks to get the internet connection at the shop so....for 16 hr days ... ill be OFFLINE.....aaaa....a welcome relief to some Im sure Ill probably actually get more work done.

But just be sure (we) the new Drooze Crew will be working hard at annoying and building something to annoy well beyond what the DP could....this time my way, all the way. All the complete goofy ideas I can come up with and weld together. (Or more correctly have our master welder Damon weld together) Ive got a scavenging header setup that may give NHRA Techs a stroke but dosent say it cant be done, a lesson from tuned resonance on two strokes Never seen a resonance stinger on a Stocker, but why not ? And a few other Drooze Ideas like a Dry Differential....no rule says it has to have fluid in it

So back to my old haunts with some new "team" members who have helped all along here and there, now full time, like Damon, and David White.....you think Im crazy...lol...

But it was a long day today moving shops for my items, and will be tommorow as well, help is on the way for that however and...........

Well some of the help you will know and reckognize others, well while not very internet oriented come 2 monthsish, youll think my HR department searched Guatemalan insane asylums for rocket scientists, The wastelands of the builders of the Machines from Mad Max and the Road warrior (he dresses like that too, sorry Damon you do man) and well......after that what else needs to be said, but these are the people I have worked with on bikes for over 20 years and one of us completes anothers sentence when it comes to crazy ideas, like backing bearings with Beryllium oxide , and yes we did it and it worked So.......

Off to the road to ruin, but most certain fun, and who knows we may just get lucky Im shooting for 2 under......any less well that wont be a sucess in my book, and weve all talked and all think it can be done, so.........

Thanks for all the well wishes and I hope to see you all trackside again soon.

And Mandie will be there, we have a new saying thanks to Gary Parker......"Shes young enough to be my daugther, but shes NOT" Mandie T-Shirts will be available for order

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman

Building..... no just moved a few doors down to a Solo location.

Things went from being fun with the DP and straining personal relationships too much to be worth it. My way or the highway isnt going to cut it for 16 hr days.

So.....new projects and new plans, actually finally getting to plans that were mine all along now with the freedom afforded by my abscence in participation of the DP well........back to the races in short order. It will take about a month to finish the other Challenger, my 72 for S/SS/GT ? Still havent made final decisions on what to do with some items.

Thats if it dosent get traded, I have 2 interested parties in a trade and will probably be hopping down to St. Louis to look at one very soon.
Its not as "sexy" as the Challenger but a well done car with definite upsides on the chassis side. Things that I couldnt afford to do/buy/or have done in the 2 month timeline from today to have my own car to the track.

It will take almost 1.5 weeks to get the internet connection at the shop so....for 16 hr days ... ill be OFFLINE.....aaaa....a welcome relief to some Im sure Ill probably actually get more work done.

But just be sure (we) the new Drooze Crew will be working hard at annoying and building something to annoy well beyond what the DP could....this time my way, all the way. All the complete goofy ideas I can come up with and weld together. (Or more correctly have our master welder Damon weld together) Ive got a scavenging header setup that may give NHRA Techs a stroke but dosent say it cant be done, a lesson from tuned resonance on two strokes Never seen a resonance stinger on a Stocker, but why not ? And a few other Drooze Ideas like a Dry Differential....no rule says it has to have fluid in it

So back to my old haunts with some new "team" members who have helped all along here and there, now full time, like Damon, and David White.....you think Im crazy...lol...

But it was a long day today moving shops for my items, and will be tommorow as well, help is on the way for that however and...........

Well some of the help you will know and reckognize others, well while not very internet oriented come 2 monthsish, youll think my HR department searched Guatemalan insane asylums for rocket scientists, The wastelands of the builders of the Machines from Mad Max and the Road warrior (he dresses like that too, sorry Damon you do man) and well......after that what else needs to be said, but these are the people I have worked with on bikes for over 20 years and one of us completes anothers sentence when it comes to crazy ideas, like backing bearings with Beryllium oxide , and yes we did it and it worked So.......

Off to the road to ruin, but most certain fun, and who knows we may just get lucky Im shooting for 2 under......any less well that wont be a sucess in my book, and weve all talked and all think it can be done, so.........

Thanks for all the well wishes and I hope to see you all trackside again soon.

And Mandie will be there, we have a new saying thanks to Gary Parker......"Shes young enough to be my daugther, but shes NOT" Mandie T-Shirts will be available for order

Best wishes to you Chris and the new Drooze and Crew with your next project.

[Gary Parker]

Well great saying Chris, but I have to give the credit for that one to Larry Hill. Hope to see you all soon at the races. Gary

[boostedf22c]

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Gary Parker

Well great saying Chris, but I have to give the credit for that one to Larry Hill. Hope to see you all soon at the races. Gary

Its been agreed its going on the wrap

[magnumv8]

Go to Mancini Racing's website and search "chassis manual"....they have brand new 9th edition versions from Mopar Performance for $10.00....Great info inside and very good starting points to get to the end conclusions......


D L Rambo......

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by hemidup

Best wishes to you Chris and the new Drooze and Crew with your next project.

Thanks Jerry, Mandie sent this to me tonight while I was watching TV....I Actually for once read it ...

I think it will be the droozenverk team motto

Life holds no promises as to what will come your way.
You must search for your own ideals and work toward reaching them.
Life makes no guarantees as to what you’ll have.
It just gives you time to make choices and to take chances
and to discover whatever secrets that might come your way.
If you are willing to take the opportunities you are given
and utilize the abilities you have, you will constantly fill your life
with special moments and unforgettable times.

Dena Dilaconi

Racing and building and sharing of time with my father has already created more unforgettable times than I can count.

The rest of it goes on to read.

We all make our own choices and take our own chances. It's when we attach expectations of the outcomes that we face disappointment, that we tend to stop taking the chances that can make our lives brighter.

Life isn't made up of long, extended periods of happiness and bliss. Life is made up of moments, and we make the choices with each moment concerning what we're going to do with our lives. If we want many special moments, then we must make special moments. If we want unforgettable times, then we have to take advantage of our opportunities and abilities and make the times unforgettable.

Life promises us nothing. It's better that way, for if it promised us bliss, then how would we ever learn what it means to create the very special moments of our lives?

For today, this is the path I have chosen to capture more of those moments. Im sure it will make sense to some, other will probably think I either got dosed or was hitting the bong a little too hard.....

But, off to bed, We got a race car to start to build , and doors to varnish, and blood treatments to be had (mandie and my son will be sooooo happy, I dont sweat like a pig in an oven for a few days) and if youve ever seen me sweat, NOT seeing it is refreshing....lol....Its bad when your kid keeps bringing you water saying dad its not humanly possible...

Anyone know the best front suspension setup on an Ebody ? (or who to talk to ?) I tried tracking a couple down at Norwalk, but either Im blind or they had packed up ? These things are soo damm spooky, I have never been sure of torsion susp, it always felt like being pushed on a unicycle by a herd of rabid squirrels....

[Larry Hill]

Chris, get an old mopar racing manual and pay close attention to the front suspension section.

[Adger Smith]

Drooze I saw in your post about Ex.. well I hate to tell you, but through testing some of the fast Comp cars have found a 2 step header keeps the velocity up better than the 3 step and is faster/quicker down track. What works best in theory & on a dyno, doesn't always work best in the real world.
I know you are young and have time to waste trying to re-invent the wheel.
Please do what Larry suggested. Study tried and true (already proved) ways of doing things and then after knowing how and why something works, refine and improve the application. As said in another post you aren't the first guy to dream and want to make major changes to the way things are done. I do think it is encouraging that you said you needed a good base to start from... I agree. Build a simple straight forward combination with the tried and true methods and systems. Then if you want to test a theory you have a stable base/platform to work from. Remember this sport of racing is all about making the laws of Physics work for you, not cheating them... A long time ago I was told by a very smart Engineering Professor that you couldn't cheat the laws of Physics, only use them correctly and you might get away with bending them a little before you broke them.. :~)
Good Luck....

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

I do appreciate the advice Adger, and in truth it is exactly what we did with the Mega Maniac, we started with all established items.

Even on the header side we ordered the TTI's 2 steps that everyone else was running, why because they were a known quantity.

Timing dictated the 3 steps however because delivery of the 2 steps wasnt until after we were trackside, plus being mild stell afforded us the opportunity to change them more easily.

In our scenario, the 3 steps are working better, why ? Cam profile, head flow, I dont know and havent had time to disect why.

I couldnt agree more, Dyno's are in my opinion useless except for a baseline, they do not replicate the exact conditions of accell , decel, airflow, etc. I much to our tuner chagrin, said no more Dyno, trackside, the last tune that I wrote propelled us to a 10.59, and was rough at best.

I agree Adger, it may not sound like I do but I do, I ALWAYS start with a KNOWN quantity , its part of the Scientific Method, its a control and its required. From there, we will "play" but I will have a basline to go from.

Thank you Adger, and others for your concern, our INITIAL steps , even on the DP are exactly as you said, staret with something known. From there we will diverge, I guess I havent communicated that well, and thats my fault, the DP , except headers well, its pretty much like all the others.......Now it will be changed , we learned what works and what can be improved upon, in that arena unfortunatley there have been few examples to follow early, Irv Johns, Doug Duell....well that been about it. Now its interesting to see we are having people follow things WE did, several teams.....all knowledge is bite sized pieces as it were, and Were hungry.

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Drooze I saw in your post about Ex.. well I hate to tell you, but through testing some of the fast Comp cars have found a 2 step header keeps the velocity up better than the 3 step and is faster/quicker down track. What works best in theory & on a dyno, doesn't always work best in the real world.
I know you are young and have time to waste trying to re-invent the wheel.
Please do what Larry suggested. Study tried and true (already proved) ways of doing things and then after knowing how and why something works, refine and improve the application. As said in another post you aren't the first guy to dream and want to make major changes to the way things are done. I do think it is encouraging that you said you needed a good base to start from... I agree. Build a simple straight forward combination with the tried and true methods and systems. Then if you want to test a theory you have a stable base/platform to work from. Remember this sport of racing is all about making the laws of Physics work for you, not cheating them... A long time ago I was told by a very smart Engineering Professor that you couldn't cheat the laws of Physics, only use them correctly and you might get away with bending them a little before you broke them.. :~)
Good Luck....