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Old 12-20-2010, 01:59 AM   #1
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Talking Question About New Chevy Cars

I know theres a lot of Cobalts in Super Stock,Comp etc.Why arent there any Camaros or Vettes out there too expensive no factory support?? What would be a unreal combo for a new camaro or vette or any front wheel drive car in Stock??

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Old 12-20-2010, 11:03 AM   #2
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I would think there is to much a advantage to a FWD SS car vs the camaro and the vette. The physical size etc.Not to mention the full round tube chassis of the FWD's and the full aftermarket front susp. etc. I would like to hear if there are any new 2000 on up FWD stocker combo's that are good, besides the PT's.

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Old 12-20-2010, 11:16 AM   #3
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Cobalts are popular in SS/GT. A Cobalt that is a flood car can be bought cheap. Not much of the original car except the body (and stock floor pan) is really used. Newer Corvette and Camaro flood cars are a lot more pricey. Making a Stocker out of a flood car involves replacing or fixing a lot more of the electronics.

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Old 12-20-2010, 11:40 AM   #4
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There are no new Camaro combinations that are worth building for Stock Eliminator. Most of the new Corvettes are factored such that they are Super Stock only combinations.

You can buy a new stripper Cobalt for about $12K or so, used examples for far less. It is small, light, and aerodynamic. You can buy a Camaro body in white for about $10K or so. You need another $5K or so worth of stuff just to have enough pieces to start a Super Stock legal car. The Camaro is big, heavy, and not terribly aerodynamic. If you're going to spend $75K to build a Super stock car, where are you going to start?
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:42 AM   #5
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I can't imagine anybody building a new Camaro.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:53 AM   #6
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I can't imagine anybody building a new Camaro.
And they are UGLY ! You can park a 67-68 Camaro inside one. I know they are out selling the Mustangs and Challengers but DAMN.
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Cobalts are popular in SS/GT. A Cobalt that is a flood car can be bought cheap. Not much of the original car except the body (and stock floor pan) is really used. Newer Corvette and Camaro flood cars are a lot more pricey. Making a Stocker out of a flood car involves replacing or fixing a lot more of the electronics.
IF you can find a flood car. There must be some out there but finding them is the key. I know of a guy that tried to find a flood car and could not find one. This was around September 1st. Has there been any floods after September 1st in the U.S.? I do know of a really nice stocker for sale in the classifieds that was a flood car from Katrina.
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:34 PM   #8
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With flood cars, don't you have a problem with rust? For example, the Katrina flood car was immersed in salt water, wasn't it? A guy I know built a flood car years ago and he couldn't stop the thing from rusting from the inside out. It seems he couldn't get the tight seams of the body flushed out thoroughly and the corrosion ate it alive. I would think that a fresh water flood car would be a lot better.

As far as Camaros go, I currently own a 1969, a 1971, and a 2010 Camaro, and it took me awhile to warm to the looks of the new one but I like them now. It's just not built to be the same type of car as the originals. From what I read on another thread, 4 cylinder Cobalts weigh almost as much now as a base '69 Camaro did! Based on that it's no surprise that the weight of Camaros has gone up too.

Unless GM decides to offer a "Drag Pak" type package and pull a bunch of weight out of the car I can't see anyone building one for Stock or Super Stock. There has been talk lately of the body style being introduced to Pro Stock soon though. The "Pro Stock-ized" version will likely be about 3/4 scale and otherwise tweaked though to make it work.
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Besides the weight GM would have to release something about 100hp light ala DragPack engines to be competitive. I have chassis dyno tuned and tested several. They are rated honestly, so would get murdered in S or SS. Really poor choice for a race car.
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With flood cars, don't you have a problem with rust? For example, the Katrina flood car was immersed in salt water, wasn't it? A guy I know built a flood car years ago and he couldn't stop the thing from rusting from the inside out. It seems he couldn't get the tight seams of the body flushed out thoroughly and the corrosion ate it alive. I would think that a fresh water flood car would be a lot better.

As far as Camaros go, I currently own a 1969, a 1971, and a 2010 Camaro, and it took me awhile to warm to the looks of the new one but I like them now. It's just not built to be the same type of car as the originals. From what I read on another thread, 4 cylinder Cobalts weigh almost as much now as a base '69 Camaro did! Based on that it's no surprise that the weight of Camaros has gone up too.

Unless GM decides to offer a "Drag Pak" type package and pull a bunch of weight out of the car I can't see anyone building one for Stock or Super Stock. There has been talk lately of the body style being introduced to Pro Stock soon though. The "Pro Stock-ized" version will likely be about 3/4 scale and otherwise tweaked though to make it work.
New Orleans had mostly brackish water but with a lot of corrosive, but a lot of cars had been totaled because a little water (rain water) hit the carpets. The ones that were covered in water for a week were ruined unless you did an off the frame restoration right away.

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