Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Tie

Jeff Teuton · 12-24-2011, 06:36 PM

1964-65 Lightweight B bodies with the 2 4bbl hemi @ 450 hp. 7.11, 7.36, & low 7.50 factor I think. Should add some interest. Doesn't say which manifold, the original alm and magnesium, or the Mopar Performance replacement. Should be interesting. I kinda thought the 68's might get some play, but nothing yet.

John Lang · 12-24-2011, 07:58 PM

Jeff, Just wondering if the 64-65 Hemi posting @450hp, is this for Stk ? or SS?...John ! Any changes fot the 1-4bbl hemi ?

Jeff Teuton · 12-24-2011, 10:34 PM

John, it says stock, and it's effective 1/1/12 so that is new.

Jeff Lee · 12-25-2011, 01:35 AM

What is the HP and class for the '64 Savoy with single 4bbl Hemi and what happens to the class when you put a 2x4 induction on it?
I have to imagine it gets a cross-ram, either OEM or MOPAR. I know of at least on single 4bbl racer that will jump right in. Heck, it's more legal now with a 2x4 than that 1x4!

bill dedman · 12-25-2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

What is the HP and class for the '64 Savoy with single 4bbl Hemi and what happens to the class when you put a 2x4 induction on it?
I have to imagine it gets a cross-ram, either OEM or MOPAR. I know of at least on single 4bbl racer that will jump right in. Heck, it's more legal now with a 2x4 than that 1x4!

"more legal"
Is that anything like being "more pregnant"???

Isn't it either legal, or it's not???

jdfpam · 12-25-2011, 02:24 AM

Jeff,
Has NHRA started to accept fiberglass and lexan for lightweight cars yet like IHRA does?

Jeff Day

hookdaddy · 12-25-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

"more legal"
Is that anything like being "more pregnant"???

Isn't it either legal, or it's not???

Actually Bill, NOTHING is legal when it comes to the NHRA. Back when I was doing our ads for National Dragster I used the phrase "NHRA legal .134 wall tubing". I quickly got a call from the my rep telling me the word "legal" awas a no-no. Apparently legal involves laws and lawyers. The NHRA does not make laws, they make rules and rules are either "accepted or not accepted. Still makes me laugh to this day!

Steve Hagberg · 12-26-2011, 06:14 PM

Actually the Hp rating is 440 for the automatic, and 430 for stick cars. The NASCAR 3-bbl 950 carb has not been legalized, but the three bbl manifold that was modified for it's use has been legal for over 4 years. The carb was not approved because " it was a NASCAR only carb". Not sure I follow the logic since this is an approved NASCAR engine.

Phillip marvetz · 12-27-2011, 01:44 AM

Well this gives me one reason to join NHRA again. Not that I can run anywhere close to a good A/SA car but at least I wont have to change the carb and intake if I want to run a NHRA race.
I wonder why they didn't include the 117in wheelbase cars in this change. I'll have to hack the crap out of my wheel wells to shorten it up another inch.

12-24-2011, 06:36 PM	#1
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Tie 1964-65 Lightweight B bodies with the 2 4bbl hemi @ 450 hp. 7.11, 7.36, & low 7.50 factor I think. Should add some interest. Doesn't say which manifold, the original alm and magnesium, or the Mopar Performance replacement. Should be interesting. I kinda thought the 68's might get some play, but nothing yet. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK Last edited by Jeff Teuton; 12-24-2011 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Something else

12-24-2011, 07:58 PM	#2
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Jeff, Just wondering if the 64-65 Hemi posting @450hp, is this for Stk ? or SS?...John ! Any changes fot the 1-4bbl hemi ? __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS Last edited by John Lang; 12-24-2011 at 08:01 PM. Reason: More questions.!

12-24-2011, 10:34 PM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow John, it says stock, and it's effective 1/1/12 so that is new. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

12-25-2011, 01:35 AM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow What is the HP and class for the '64 Savoy with single 4bbl Hemi and what happens to the class when you put a 2x4 induction on it? I have to imagine it gets a cross-ram, either OEM or MOPAR. I know of at least on single 4bbl racer that will jump right in. Heck, it's more legal now with a 2x4 than that 1x4! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

12-25-2011, 02:24 AM	#6
jdfpam Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Jeff, Has NHRA started to accept fiberglass and lexan for lightweight cars yet like IHRA does? Jeff Day

12-26-2011, 06:14 PM	#8
Steve Hagberg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Actually the Hp rating is 440 for the automatic, and 430 for stick cars. The NASCAR 3-bbl 950 carb has not been legalized, but the three bbl manifold that was modified for it's use has been legal for over 4 years. The carb was not approved because " it was a NASCAR only carb". Not sure I follow the logic since this is an approved NASCAR engine.

12-27-2011, 01:44 AM	#9
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Competition for the Blown Fords & V10 Mopars and the Bow Well this gives me one reason to join NHRA again. Not that I can run anywhere close to a good A/SA car but at least I wont have to change the carb and intake if I want to run a NHRA race. I wonder why they didn't include the 117in wheelbase cars in this change. I'll have to hack the crap out of my wheel wells to shorten it up another inch. __________________ 2009 V/SA Record Holder Last edited by Phillip marvetz; 12-27-2011 at 02:00 AM.