ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !

Aubrey N Bruneau · 03-11-2012, 06:07 PM

Myself being the single worst racer here, I decided that I better try SOMETING.
Ok, it's time for a 2-step.
Have a 6AL, and now the separate little 2-step module "box".
As I understand it, this is not allowed to be directly activated by a switch on the gear shift, etc.
good.... because as the worst racer here, I don't need one more thing to worry about when I'm watching the tree.
So, activated by the clutch pedal, seems to be the permitted and logical method.
good...
I did what I think is a wonderful job of installing a lever-type aftermarket brake light switch, that is activated by the release fork at the bellhousing. Nice and clean, easily adjusted. Have it set to de-activate when the pedal is about 2" off of the floor.
I like it.
Problem is, I do use the clutch to shift. I do NOT want this to be tied into my newly installed line-lock in any way ( more wiring confusion, more to worry about at the tree, and most importantly... line locks do not release INSTANTLY, which I can see adding to increased and un-due resistance to forward motion from the starting line ).
So, it's been suggested that I go through a switch on 1st gear on my transmission.
trouble is, I'll "tap it' on the 1-2 gear change.
so
my BRILLIANT solution ? ! .... just TOO obvious !
but after reading through some old threads, may be a no-no.
A relay between my clutch switch and 2 step, that delays the activation of the 2-step by a couple seconds ? !
This would allow me to drive to the line, while staging ( clutch pedal depressed ), after a couple seconds, the two step would activate, and set my rev limit on the low side, so I have less to worry about. Immediately upon releasing the clutch pedal, the 2-step would not activate again, unless I held the cluch pedal down for more than a couple seconds.
too easy
probably too good to be true ( acceptable ) ?

No starting line advantage, harder launch, or even any advantage to consistency here.
Just a system to halp give me one less thing to worry about.

Sean Marconette · 03-11-2012, 11:04 PM

Install a microswitch on the shifter that only activates LL when shifter is in 1st

Sean

Aubrey N Bruneau · 03-11-2012, 11:34 PM

Yes Sean, that's what I mean by onto 1st gear. Again, the trouble is, I do use the clutch on shifts, and that'll tap the low side RPM limit, causing a bit of a stumble... at a very crucial time in the run.

Dinsdale · 03-12-2012, 12:12 AM

I went for simple as well. Have a button switch that is activated by the clutch pedal. Set it so when my foot is to the floor the low side is on. Not much chance of me putting the pedal down far enough on a shift to re-activate so I don't worry about it. Ideally, the micro switch for 1st gear only engagement would be the way to go.

Phillip marvetz · 03-12-2012, 01:51 AM

I have a digiset timer for my nitrous that is easily adjustable and would do what your thinking. I'm not sure about being legal in a stocker though. I saw something similar on ebay for $10.

Sean Marconette · 03-12-2012, 08:01 PM

I did not do a very good job in my first post. Series the switches on the fork in your case and one on the shifter for 1st gear. Both have to be made to engage the LL. Another set of switches on both fork and 1st gear for the 2 step. No relays are allowed. Release of LL and 2 step has to be from drivers foot, and cannot be released using your hands. This is for staging the car. The Burnout, with a stick and LL is a different discussion as 1st gear is not used for the burnout. If the switches are setup in series there should be no way to bounce both switches and re-engage the 2 step.

Hope this Helps.

Sean

Dinsdale · 03-14-2012, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

I have a digiset timer for my nitrous that is easily adjustable and would do what your thinking. I'm not sure about being legal in a stocker though. I saw something similar on ebay for $10.

Same place you got your helmet??

03-11-2012, 06:07 PM	#1
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! Myself being the single worst racer here, I decided that I better try SOMETING. Ok, it's time for a 2-step. Have a 6AL, and now the separate little 2-step module "box". As I understand it, this is not allowed to be directly activated by a switch on the gear shift, etc. good.... because as the worst racer here, I don't need one more thing to worry about when I'm watching the tree. So, activated by the clutch pedal, seems to be the permitted and logical method. good... I did what I think is a wonderful job of installing a lever-type aftermarket brake light switch, that is activated by the release fork at the bellhousing. Nice and clean, easily adjusted. Have it set to de-activate when the pedal is about 2" off of the floor. I like it. Problem is, I do use the clutch to shift. I do NOT want this to be tied into my newly installed line-lock in any way ( more wiring confusion, more to worry about at the tree, and most importantly... line locks do not release INSTANTLY, which I can see adding to increased and un-due resistance to forward motion from the starting line ). So, it's been suggested that I go through a switch on 1st gear on my transmission. trouble is, I'll "tap it' on the 1-2 gear change. so my BRILLIANT solution ? ! .... just TOO obvious ! but after reading through some old threads, may be a no-no. A relay between my clutch switch and 2 step, that delays the activation of the 2-step by a couple seconds ? ! This would allow me to drive to the line, while staging ( clutch pedal depressed ), after a couple seconds, the two step would activate, and set my rev limit on the low side, so I have less to worry about. Immediately upon releasing the clutch pedal, the 2-step would not activate again, unless I held the cluch pedal down for more than a couple seconds. too easy probably too good to be true ( acceptable ) ? No starting line advantage, harder launch, or even any advantage to consistency here. Just a system to halp give me one less thing to worry about. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

03-11-2012, 11:04 PM	#2
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 796 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! Install a microswitch on the shifter that only activates LL when shifter is in 1st Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

03-11-2012, 11:34 PM	#3
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! Yes Sean, that's what I mean by onto 1st gear. Again, the trouble is, I do use the clutch on shifts, and that'll tap the low side RPM limit, causing a bit of a stumble... at a very crucial time in the run. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

03-12-2012, 12:12 AM	#4
Dinsdale Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 313 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! I went for simple as well. Have a button switch that is activated by the clutch pedal. Set it so when my foot is to the floor the low side is on. Not much chance of me putting the pedal down far enough on a shift to re-activate so I don't worry about it. Ideally, the micro switch for 1st gear only engagement would be the way to go. __________________ Dale Posnick

03-12-2012, 01:51 AM	#5
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! I have a digiset timer for my nitrous that is easily adjustable and would do what your thinking. I'm not sure about being legal in a stocker though. I saw something similar on ebay for $10. __________________ 2009 V/SA Record Holder

03-12-2012, 08:01 PM	#6
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 796 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question ! I did not do a very good job in my first post. Series the switches on the fork in your case and one on the shifter for 1st gear. Both have to be made to engage the LL. Another set of switches on both fork and 1st gear for the 2 step. No relays are allowed. Release of LL and 2 step has to be from drivers foot, and cannot be released using your hands. This is for staging the car. The Burnout, with a stick and LL is a different discussion as 1st gear is not used for the burnout. If the switches are setup in series there should be no way to bounce both switches and re-engage the 2 step. Hope this Helps. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N Last edited by Sean Marconette; 03-12-2012 at 08:13 PM.