Dial-ins, honest or not

Rick Angles · 04-20-2007, 12:30 PM

Just raced for the first time this year Wed night. With plans to put together a GM H-body this year that I am aquiring from my brother-in-law, I figured I would get out and make some laps in the meantime with my Civic driver. I have always dialed close to my average when racing and did that the other night. Got by first round by a red light gimme, but lost 2nd round. The other driver caught me before the stripe and let off,playing with me. So the question is; do you dial close to what you think you can run and drive it out without lifting. Or, do you dial slower, and have enough time to judge where you both are at the end but having to brake so as not to run under?

bottombulb · 04-20-2007, 12:41 PM

It's a simple question. Do you want to be the pedal-er or the pedal-ee ?

Bud McNasby

stockracer · 04-20-2007, 12:49 PM

Fletch, Biondo, Zane, Cummings, Jackson, ect all hold a tenth or more...you decide

LNorton · 04-20-2007, 01:08 PM

A lot of people like to hold, but it's really a matter of personal preference.

I have won a lot of rounds dialing honest, hammering the tree, and running the number. I also know a lot of guys that have won a lot of rounds holding a tenth and reeling people in.

It really is a matter of what you are comfortable with and what works for you.

Lee Norton
Performance Punch Embroidery Digitizing
Slowtime Motorsports
I/PS '02 Firebird 231 V6

Isaac Zane · 04-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Rick,

Talk to Bud, he can steer you in the right direction!

Lee doesn't hold a tenth. Usually........ Has held a couple of tenths a few times. Once held 5 tenths and once won a final dialing up a second. That was an interesting one!

Safe Trips All,
Isaac

Isaac Zane
1237 NHRA Stock
J/SA, K/SA
Buick Apollo
http://www.crew-chief.com/dragstuf/index.html

stockracer · 04-20-2007, 02:29 PM

I threw Lee in because Ive seen it from across the lane...Im not saying he does it all the time, his mphs are to consistant...so no offense

Daran Summerton · 04-20-2007, 02:31 PM

A,B,C cars usually run that way but being the Chaser vs. Chasee is much easier. I've tried both -- Neither work for me

Daran - Tina
2057 SS/MA
2050 K/SA

Robert Pare Racing · 04-20-2007, 03:33 PM

I like to dial down a tenth, so I wont break out.

Rick Angles · 04-20-2007, 03:52 PM

Thanks for all the comments so far. My one TT on Wed was a 18.17. So not knowing about what the car would run, I dialed at 18.10. 1st round was a 18.21 and 2nd round was 18.23. Running against the tuner crowd with their 13-16 sec Honda's/Acura's, I figured it would give me some experience with being chased. The V-6 Starfire ( GM H-body ) I am going to build will be in the lower classes, around T/SA, so I will be chased then most of the time ( unless they run mopeds,[:-laughing-:] ).

gymracer01 · 04-20-2007, 08:04 PM

Very interesting topic. In the early days of bracket we would dial a little quicker than we could run and just run it out and won a lot of races that way. That was before reaction times were given at most tracks. I know most of the name racers are good on the big end. I seem to always have trouble with faster cars. I think if you are a much slower car you have to be dialed close, hit the tree and hope for the best. I just lost a close race Sunday to a .75 second faster car. It was double break out and I gave up the stripe and still broke out more on the brakes. Anyone come up with the perfect answer, I would like to know.
JIm Netherland
NMCA B/NSS

04-20-2007, 12:30 PM	#1
Rick Angles Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Circleville,Ohio Posts: 113 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dial-ins, honest or not Just raced for the first time this year Wed night. With plans to put together a GM H-body this year that I am aquiring from my brother-in-law, I figured I would get out and make some laps in the meantime with my Civic driver. I have always dialed close to my average when racing and did that the other night. Got by first round by a red light gimme, but lost 2nd round. The other driver caught me before the stripe and let off,playing with me. So the question is; do you dial close to what you think you can run and drive it out without lifting. Or, do you dial slower, and have enough time to judge where you both are at the end but having to brake so as not to run under? __________________ Rick

04-20-2007, 01:08 PM	#4
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	A lot of people like to hold, but it's really a matter of personal preference. I have won a lot of rounds dialing honest, hammering the tree, and running the number. I also know a lot of guys that have won a lot of rounds holding a tenth and reeling people in. It really is a matter of what you are comfortable with and what works for you. Lee Norton Performance Punch Embroidery Digitizing Slowtime Motorsports I/PS '02 Firebird 231 V6 __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

04-20-2007, 02:21 PM	#5
Isaac Zane Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 361 Likes: 392 Liked 50 Times in 14 Posts	Rick, Talk to Bud, he can steer you in the right direction! Lee doesn't hold a tenth. Usually........ Has held a couple of tenths a few times. Once held 5 tenths and once won a final dialing up a second. That was an interesting one! Safe Trips All, Isaac Isaac Zane 1237 NHRA Stock J/SA, K/SA Buick Apollo http://www.crew-chief.com/dragstuf/index.html __________________ Isaac Zane STK 1237 J/SA Buick Apollo Patriot Guard Rider DOOF 43

04-20-2007, 02:31 PM	#7
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	A,B,C cars usually run that way but being the Chaser vs. Chasee is much easier. I've tried both -- Neither work for me Daran - Tina 2057 SS/MA 2050 K/SA __________________ 72 cutlass

04-20-2007, 03:33 PM	#8
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	I like to dial down a tenth, so I wont break out. __________________ Rapare-Racing.com

04-20-2007, 12:41 PM	#2
bottombulb Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hammonton NJ Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's a simple question. Do you want to be the pedal-er or the pedal-ee ? Bud McNasby

04-20-2007, 12:49 PM	#3
stockracer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fletch, Biondo, Zane, Cummings, Jackson, ect all hold a tenth or more...you decide

04-20-2007, 02:29 PM	#6
stockracer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I threw Lee in because Ive seen it from across the lane...Im not saying he does it all the time, his mphs are to consistant...so no offense

04-20-2007, 03:52 PM	#9
Rick Angles Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Circleville,Ohio Posts: 113 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the comments so far. My one TT on Wed was a 18.17. So not knowing about what the car would run, I dialed at 18.10. 1st round was a 18.21 and 2nd round was 18.23. Running against the tuner crowd with their 13-16 sec Honda's/Acura's, I figured it would give me some experience with being chased. The V-6 Starfire ( GM H-body ) I am going to build will be in the lower classes, around T/SA, so I will be chased then most of the time ( unless they run mopeds,[:-laughing-:] ). __________________ Rick

04-20-2007, 08:04 PM	#10
gymracer01 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle Tennesse Posts: 46 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very interesting topic. In the early days of bracket we would dial a little quicker than we could run and just run it out and won a lot of races that way. That was before reaction times were given at most tracks. I know most of the name racers are good on the big end. I seem to always have trouble with faster cars. I think if you are a much slower car you have to be dialed close, hit the tree and hope for the best. I just lost a close race Sunday to a .75 second faster car. It was double break out and I gave up the stripe and still broke out more on the brakes. Anyone come up with the perfect answer, I would like to know. JIm Netherland NMCA B/NSS