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Old 09-07-2022, 11:30 PM   #1
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Default AHFS Foibles

I'm not an expert on this subject so I'll need a few outside opinions.
Recently my good friend Lead Foot Eddie gave the 87 El Camino a big wallop with 11 hp.
I've been told that the Elky is considered a truck, and therefore can use a .430 lift cam.
I've also been told there was no teardown.
Now, upon examining the new NHRA rating, I see that the 2 dr. Monte also got the 11 hp hit.
Two problems I see here..
First, the 2 dr car has to use a .357 /.390 lift cam.
Second, it's a bit of a different platform, at it's 108 in. wheelbase.
The "truck" is 117.1
I contend that the 2dr. shouldn't have gotten the hit at all.
No, I'm not building one, but I hate to see two good combos whacked, when it should be only one.
Those who are still awake here after all of this,, what say you?
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Old 09-07-2022, 11:36 PM   #2
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Mark, the 2 different camshafts seals the deal, it's two different combinations. It is indefensible, and NHRA must adjust the Monte Carlo
back to what it was. Perhaps an oversight, perhaps not. It must be undone.

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Old 09-08-2022, 07:56 AM   #3
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You are correct about the wheelbase difference and the Monte Carlo shouldn't get a hit.
There are no 1987 Chevrolet Trucks listed in the classification guide. The ElCamino is and has always been classified as a car.
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The 1987 class guide list the the ElCamino as a pickup. So is the word truck understood? The wheel base difference of 9.1” should make it a different platform. The camshaft deal like JR pointed out is enough to fix the car part.
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So is the word truck understood? The wheel base difference of 9.1” should make it a different platform.
The word "Truck" is very specific in the "Engine Blueprint Specs.".
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Ya know Larry, you've been around for long enough to know what happens when you assume that something is understood when dealing with the NHRA. ;-)
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:30 AM   #7
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I'm sure that after looking at the issue involved that NHRA will make the correct decision, they seem to be trying to level the playing field and to use common sense, which is a plus.

The wheelbase deal is a given, longer wheelbase cars are at a disadvantage and like most other Stocker/SS's running same engine combos there is a different hp rating on them, though I could be mistaken?

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I'm sure that after looking at the issue involved that NHRA will make the correct decision, they seem to be trying to level the playing field and to use common sense, which is a plus.

The wheelbase deal is a given, longer wheelbase cars are at a disadvantage and like most other Stocker/SS's running same engine combos there is a different hp rating on them, though I could be mistaken?

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RJ, You might remember the Gilbert Johnson Impala. It was real fast for a 283 SS car, index wise.
They managed to get hp piled on it more than once. So much so that their rating was somewhat higher than the Chevy II's and Chevelles., at that time.

In other words, the 119" big Impala 283 could make more hp in that body style.
That was a big glitch in the system, in my opinion.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:12 PM   #9
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Refresh my memory please, getting old ain’t for the weak, as I said I could be mistaken.
Seems the Mopar combos had different hp ratings that corresponded to wheelbase, small car/big car with same motors but 108/116/117 wheelbase??

Should there be a difference in hp rating for this or not? Opinions??

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