thin ring grooves

Bill Bogues · 11-27-2022, 10:22 PM

With all the talk about allowing this or that in stock.I've wondered about letting thin ring grooves to be allowed in Pistons. Most all the late model cars have thin rings, and a lot of older combinations are using thin rings with spacers in their engines.Keep the ring grooves in stock location and have pistons cut for thin rings. Ring costs are bad enough as it is without throwing all these spacers into the mix. Just my thoughts.

11-28-2022, 11:02 AM

Out of all the wishes and wants for stock eliminator, this one makes the most $ense. I’ve sent a few emails to Pat on the subject..

Happy Holidays

GUMP · 11-28-2022, 12:44 PM

How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring?

melvin wellman · 11-28-2022, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring?

This seems to make the most sense to try and keep the stock in stock eliminator. Maybe a headache to enforce though.

With custom grooves in stock pistons, I can almost imagine nhra allowing a super stock type piston in stock, and allowing any compression ratio in super stock.

J.R. Haddad · 11-28-2022, 04:03 PM

Gump usually has good ideas, and this is one. My fear, is that the more
aggressive Ring producers will continue to innovate and will
produce a step down, Diamond Coated, Titanium sided, Stainless Steel,
dipped in gold ring, that at the end of the day, with R&D will cost a lot
more than we now pay.

J.R.

mnmaxwedge · 11-28-2022, 10:09 PM

That's ok if you want to make the old cars run old technology like wide rings. If you want to make things equal you should ban the late model Challengers/Mustangs/Camaros that run traditional stock classes from taking advantage of the older driveline parts they use. In other words, they must run the rear ends they came with. I think the deepest gear in the Challenger rear end is a 3.70. Also require them to run the OE 8 speed automatics. This would be even easier to police than ring size. All you have to do is look under the car. Also the late model cars should be required to run OE type suspension with bolt on parts like the older cars. No weld up link bars and that type of thing. Also no crossbreeding parts, a Camaro has to run a Chev rear end and transmission.

11-27-2022, 10:22 PM	#1
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 323 Likes: 96 Liked 169 Times in 53 Posts	thin ring grooves With all the talk about allowing this or that in stock.I've wondered about letting thin ring grooves to be allowed in Pistons. Most all the late model cars have thin rings, and a lot of older combinations are using thin rings with spacers in their engines.Keep the ring grooves in stock location and have pistons cut for thin rings. Ring costs are bad enough as it is without throwing all these spacers into the mix. Just my thoughts. __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

11-28-2022, 11:02 AM	#2
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: thin ring grooves Out of all the wishes and wants for stock eliminator, this one makes the most $ense. I’ve sent a few emails to Pat on the subject.. Happy Holidays

11-28-2022, 12:44 PM	#3
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,174 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: thin ring grooves How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring? __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

11-28-2022, 04:03 PM	#5
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 787 Likes: 940 Liked 1,471 Times in 308 Posts	Re: thin ring grooves Gump usually has good ideas, and this is one. My fear, is that the more aggressive Ring producers will continue to innovate and will produce a step down, Diamond Coated, Titanium sided, Stainless Steel, dipped in gold ring, that at the end of the day, with R&D will cost a lot more than we now pay. J.R.

11-28-2022, 10:09 PM	#6
mnmaxwedge Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 97 Likes: 56 Liked 172 Times in 53 Posts	Re: thin ring grooves That's ok if you want to make the old cars run old technology like wide rings. If you want to make things equal you should ban the late model Challengers/Mustangs/Camaros that run traditional stock classes from taking advantage of the older driveline parts they use. In other words, they must run the rear ends they came with. I think the deepest gear in the Challenger rear end is a 3.70. Also require them to run the OE 8 speed automatics. This would be even easier to police than ring size. All you have to do is look under the car. Also the late model cars should be required to run OE type suspension with bolt on parts like the older cars. No weld up link bars and that type of thing. Also no crossbreeding parts, a Camaro has to run a Chev rear end and transmission.