thin ring grooves

[GUMP]

How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring?

[melvin wellman]

Originally Posted by GUMP

How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring?

This seems to make the most sense to try and keep the stock in stock eliminator. Maybe a headache to enforce though.

With custom grooves in stock pistons, I can almost imagine nhra allowing a super stock type piston in stock, and allowing any compression ratio in super stock.

[J.R. Haddad]

Gump usually has good ideas, and this is one. My fear, is that the more
aggressive Ring producers will continue to innovate and will
produce a step down, Diamond Coated, Titanium sided, Stainless Steel,
dipped in gold ring, that at the end of the day, with R&D will cost a lot
more than we now pay.

J.R.

[mnmaxwedge]

That's ok if you want to make the old cars run old technology like wide rings. If you want to make things equal you should ban the late model Challengers/Mustangs/Camaros that run traditional stock classes from taking advantage of the older driveline parts they use. In other words, they must run the rear ends they came with. I think the deepest gear in the Challenger rear end is a 3.70. Also require them to run the OE 8 speed automatics. This would be even easier to police than ring size. All you have to do is look under the car. Also the late model cars should be required to run OE type suspension with bolt on parts like the older cars. No weld up link bars and that type of thing. Also no crossbreeding parts, a Camaro has to run a Chev rear end and transmission.

[Mark Yacavone]

Oh, you mean like JR.Stock in 1971?
I'm surprised we're not already back there...and where would you like the ring groove to be placed?

[Rich Biebel]

1967-1968 we cut ring new grooves in stock pistons higher up on our 283/220.....John Hoffman did the pistons...
Was worth a couple tenths

1970 Stocker pistons had narrower rings cut higher up
Forged trues I think they were....

Makes no sense to me to require stock grooves 50 years later and have to use various spacers and still use thin rings

[Ryan Horensky]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Oh, you mean like JR.Stock in 1971?
I'm surprised we're not already back there...and where would you like the ring groove to be placed?

Maybe they had the rule structure right back in 1971? I understand people not supporting different rule changes, or proposed rule changes, because of the cost associated with it. I get that. I also don't think you'll find too many people happy with having to spend money on the spacers every time they freshen a motor. That is a consistent purchase all the time. The only people happy are total seal because they get to charge you for it.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Ryan Horensky

I also don't think you'll find too many people happy with having to spend money on the spacers every time they freshen a motor.

They don't "have" to buy them. They "choose" to buy them.

Sometimes, being one of the COOL KIDS costs money....

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by mnmaxwedge

That's ok if you want to make the old cars run old technology like wide rings. If you want to make things equal you should ban the late model Challengers/Mustangs/Camaros that run traditional stock classes from taking advantage of the older driveline parts they use. In other words, they must run the rear ends they came with. I think the deepest gear in the Challenger rear end is a 3.70. Also require them to run the OE 8 speed automatics. This would be even easier to police than ring size. All you have to do is look under the car. Also the late model cars should be required to run OE type suspension with bolt on parts like the older cars. No weld up link bars and that type of thing. Also no crossbreeding parts, a Camaro has to run a Chev rear end and transmission.

OK, I'll bite. How about we do away with all of the "enhancements" for all makes, years, and models?

A couple of years ago, I got a to build a couple of Camaros to test all of the factory drag parts. I'm not afraid of your proposal at all. That's as long as it applies to you too....

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

OK, I'll bite. How about we do away with all of the "enhancements" for all makes, years, and models?

Cooooool! What a concept man.