HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-22-2009, 02:26 PM   #1
JrRacer2033
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Heads-Up Runs

I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.
JrRacer2033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 02:47 PM   #2
AC
Member
 
AC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 170
Likes: 29
Liked 66 Times in 23 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

aw jeez
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	notagain.jpg
Views:	381
Size:	18.8 KB
ID:	1491  
AC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 02:54 PM   #3
Randy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by AC View Post
aw jeez
Lol
Randy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 03:06 PM   #4
hadtobethere
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by AC View Post
aw jeez
...Now, that is funny
hadtobethere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 03:59 PM   #5
Ed Fernandez
Veteran Member
 
Ed Fernandez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK
Posts: 5,879
Likes: 38
Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 View Post
I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.
Don't feel picked on,this subject has been beat into the ground a few times on here,mostly when a new poorly factored combo comes out and causes mass hysteria.I don't go fast enough to click it at 1,000"
so maybe someone brave enough to get up and explain it will post on it.
It sure aint Jr dragster racing though.
__________________
Former NHRA #1945
Former IHRA #1945
T/SA
Ed Fernandez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 06:35 PM   #6
Mike Carr
VIP Member
 
Mike Carr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Enon Valley PA
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 234
Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Mike Carr Send a message via MSN to Mike Carr Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Carr
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 View Post
I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.
I posted this a few weeks ago, to another person who thought lifting early was "not racing".

"Flat out racing is great, but sometimes you have to dump to protect. I'll use the following example, Jim. Say early in the year, you and I have a heads-up run in, say, A/SA. You have a fairly common car (I'll use a '64 Fury Max Wedge as an example). I have a car that is pretty rare (say a '64 or '65 Nascar single 4 Hemi). You and I run Class somewhere early in the year. We both run flat out, both running 10.0's., and you get the win. You have plenty of other cars in your Class to bring the average for your combination down. I don't So, for running flat out, I get hit with HP, you don't, and now I'm further behind. Which can hurt later in the year, especially when it comes time for Indy, trying to win Class or even qualifying. It's this scenario, why racers, when at 1000' they realize they aren't going to win, will dump to protect their HP. It's not just Stock and S/S. David Rampy has done the same thing in Comp with his A/EA Bantam over the years. If he knows he won't get there (or even if he think he will but knows he'll kill the Index if he does), he'll dump, save the Index, to give himself a better chance down the road at winning. After 70+ National Event wins, I'd say Rampy's idea is a pretty smart one."

You WANT the power to go fast and/or to win a heads-up, but also have to be smart about how/when to USE it.
__________________
Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President
Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested
buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912
Mike Carr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 06:38 PM   #7
Bryan Worner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Duncannon, PA
Posts: 823
Likes: 133
Liked 525 Times in 84 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

AC should get the award for post of the year!!!!
Bryan Worner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 09:00 PM   #8
treessavoy
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Dunnellon,FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Lifting is not drag racing.Period!

Drag racing was invented as a sport to get form one stripe to the other as QUICKLY as you can.

Lifting, dumping, etc is an economic decision allowing you to stay competitive and win more money by sand bagging. It's the same as the .90 cars except you don't use electronics.

BUT, I'm a purist because I go so far back and I'm not in it for the money and I don't have near as much money in my car as you guys do, mine built from used parts just so I can go racing once in a while so my expectations from the sport are different from yours.

BTW, I raced Rampy and his SG opel all around AL and GA for years. Tried so hard to beat him once that I left on the second yellow lol!

Beat me up,

JimR
__________________
Jim Rountree
treessavoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 09:38 PM   #9
JrRacer2033
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Carr View Post
I posted this a few weeks ago, to another person who thought lifting early was "not racing".

"Flat out racing is great, but sometimes you have to dump to protect. I'll use the following example, Jim. Say early in the year, you and I have a heads-up run in, say, A/SA. You have a fairly common car (I'll use a '64 Fury Max Wedge as an example). I have a car that is pretty rare (say a '64 or '65 Nascar single 4 Hemi). You and I run Class somewhere early in the year. We both run flat out, both running 10.0's., and you get the win. You have plenty of other cars in your Class to bring the average for your combination down. I don't So, for running flat out, I get hit with HP, you don't, and now I'm further behind. Which can hurt later in the year, especially when it comes time for Indy, trying to win Class or even qualifying. It's this scenario, why racers, when at 1000' they realize they aren't going to win, will dump to protect their HP. It's not just Stock and S/S. David Rampy has done the same thing in Comp with his A/EA Bantam over the years. If he knows he won't get there (or even if he think he will but knows he'll kill the Index if he does), he'll dump, save the Index, to give himself a better chance down the road at winning. After 70+ National Event wins, I'd say Rampy's idea is a pretty smart one."

You WANT the power to go fast and/or to win a heads-up, but also have to be smart about how/when to USE it.
So my next question then, when would you people classify an acceptable time to run it flat out? Indy Class and thats it?
JrRacer2033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 10:22 PM   #10
treessavoy
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Dunnellon,FL
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: Heads-Up Runs

Quote:
Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 View Post
So my next question then, when would you people classify an acceptable time to run it flat out? Indy Class and thats it?
Once again you missed the point because of the current mindset.

You run flat out EVERY time you race, that's drag racing!

JimR
__________________
Jim Rountree
treessavoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.