End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? - Page 2

Michael Beard · 06-17-2013, 05:55 PM

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Now......what I am saying is that you could advertise and bring in a National Open and not draw the crowds they do

Guess we'll find out next spring... I plan to advertise the Northern Class Nationals toward a spectator market. New territory for me, but I believe there will be a return on investment, and I believe in THE SHOW -- that's you.

cicero819 · 06-17-2013, 06:46 PM

Micheal I hope that you have a successful race, I am sure with your great enthusiast and preparation it will be a success. Maybe take a lesson from the Super Modified(Roundy round type) and their fans which allow fans to add a contribution to first lap,mid lap leaders) I always thought that we could also profit from that ideal. This has help the Super Modified to survive.also have everyone show up with open trailers to get local people talking.lol Claude

Rich67stang · 06-17-2013, 07:31 PM

Stock/superstock will never draw a crowd on its own merit. The spectator of today want to have the WOW factor, and if tracks combine the two crowds will stay in the stands and watch s/SS. Perfect examples are: this past weekend @ Atco there was an event that had nostalgia SS and bracket cars, plus the WOW factor of jet cars , etc. I attended
The Pitts Nitro Jam which had the stands full and people stayed in the stands to watch
S/SS. It is very simple fix, if people adjust the show accordingly.

Richard Preiser
SS/DM 161

442OLDS · 06-17-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich67stang

Stock/superstock will never draw a crowd on its own merit.

I think people would come out to watch if they could make a bet like in horse racing.It gets real exciting when there is money on the line if you pick the winner of each race.

RJ Sledge · 06-17-2013, 08:24 PM

Its all about money, and we need to do as much as possible to gain that end.

Whether its an impromptu car show at a mall, business, or school we need to get more people exposed to S/SS cars in general. Simple things like handing out some free tickets or free parking passes would get these people inside the gates.

People spend more money on concessions, t-shirts and caps than you can imagine. The biggest step is getting them inside the gates. That is an area we need to help with. The more exposure we can generate outside the gates will show up as increased revenue for track owners inside the gates.

We need to talk to our Division Directors about things we can do as racers to help anyway we can. At the same time the DD's need to convey to the track owners what we will do to increase revenues; so we could gain some sort of concession, such as Randall Klein bought up about perferred parking spots.

All it takes is for a small group of people to get together to come up with 2 or 3 things that might be beneficial. Talk to DD'S or whomever, we need to try something so everyone will benefit.

The worst that can happen is nothing.

RJ

SStockDart · 06-17-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I think people would come out to watch if they could make a bet like in horse racing.It gets real exciting when there is money on the line if you pick the winner of each race.

Unless it is "fixed" like everything else in Chicago>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, I didn't mean to say that....LOL

Whalen3186 · 06-17-2013, 08:27 PM

I think Pinks proved that you don't need nitro/jet cars to draw a crowd. From a racers prospective this wasn't the best show to watch on tv but they knew how to fill the stands at tracks across the country. Much of this was with cars that weren't near as nice or impressive at the average stock or SS car.

SStockDart · 06-17-2013, 08:36 PM

Before Speedworld closed down.....I offered a "Match Race" with Kip Martin...In a best 2 out of 3...We are a little quicker than Kip, but the wheel stands would be awesome and great pictures.....Plus, dragging the brake at the other end might (would) require a 3rd and final round.... It was Mopar vs. Ford. The whole deal was to give them as something to advertise..................."Local Racers in a Show Down - Watch the Wheel Standing Super Stockers from Phoenix" - "Its Ford Vs. Mopar"....it never happened.

Dennis P Chapman · 06-17-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart

Unless it is "fixed" like everything else in Chicago>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, I didn't mean to say that....LOL

x2 Good one Gary lol

KRatcliff · 06-17-2013, 08:43 PM

I hope this idea gains traction because I have placard ready to put in front of Pedigo's car when he drifts away for a little while.

06-17-2013, 06:46 PM	#12
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Micheal I hope that you have a successful race, I am sure with your great enthusiast and preparation it will be a success. Maybe take a lesson from the Super Modified(Roundy round type) and their fans which allow fans to add a contribution to first lap,mid lap leaders) I always thought that we could also profit from that ideal. This has help the Super Modified to survive.also have everyone show up with open trailers to get local people talking.lol Claude

06-17-2013, 07:31 PM	#13
Rich67stang Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 312 Likes: 3 Liked 111 Times in 26 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Stock/superstock will never draw a crowd on its own merit. The spectator of today want to have the WOW factor, and if tracks combine the two crowds will stay in the stands and watch s/SS. Perfect examples are: this past weekend @ Atco there was an event that had nostalgia SS and bracket cars, plus the WOW factor of jet cars , etc. I attended The Pitts Nitro Jam which had the stands full and people stayed in the stands to watch S/SS. It is very simple fix, if people adjust the show accordingly. Richard Preiser SS/DM 161

06-17-2013, 08:24 PM	#15
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 497 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Its all about money, and we need to do as much as possible to gain that end. Whether its an impromptu car show at a mall, business, or school we need to get more people exposed to S/SS cars in general. Simple things like handing out some free tickets or free parking passes would get these people inside the gates. People spend more money on concessions, t-shirts and caps than you can imagine. The biggest step is getting them inside the gates. That is an area we need to help with. The more exposure we can generate outside the gates will show up as increased revenue for track owners inside the gates. We need to talk to our Division Directors about things we can do as racers to help anyway we can. At the same time the DD's need to convey to the track owners what we will do to increase revenues; so we could gain some sort of concession, such as Randall Klein bought up about perferred parking spots. All it takes is for a small group of people to get together to come up with 2 or 3 things that might be beneficial. Talk to DD'S or whomever, we need to try something so everyone will benefit. The worst that can happen is nothing. RJ

06-17-2013, 08:27 PM	#17
Whalen3186 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 241 Likes: 20 Liked 108 Times in 31 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? I think Pinks proved that you don't need nitro/jet cars to draw a crowd. From a racers prospective this wasn't the best show to watch on tv but they knew how to fill the stands at tracks across the country. Much of this was with cars that weren't near as nice or impressive at the average stock or SS car.

06-17-2013, 08:36 PM	#18
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 878 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Before Speedworld closed down.....I offered a "Match Race" with Kip Martin...In a best 2 out of 3...We are a little quicker than Kip, but the wheel stands would be awesome and great pictures.....Plus, dragging the brake at the other end might (would) require a 3rd and final round.... It was Mopar vs. Ford. The whole deal was to give them as something to advertise..................."Local Racers in a Show Down - Watch the Wheel Standing Super Stockers from Phoenix" - "Its Ford Vs. Mopar"....it never happened. __________________ Gary Hansen - SS/FA 4911, B/SA 4911 Last edited by SStockDart; 06-17-2013 at 08:39 PM.

06-17-2013, 08:43 PM	#20
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 763 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? I hope this idea gains traction because I have placard ready to put in front of Pedigo's car when he drifts away for a little while.