If an advocate could be found - what would you say? - Page 18

Scott Loge · 02-23-2019, 12:11 AM

Yes Steve has been very fortunate but all could lay it out there.
Mark your in AA so let’s say each laid out 100
5 cars nets 500! Not sure about everyone but 500
Is $500.
We wanna fix payout it’s on us!

RULER · 02-23-2019, 03:37 AM

So you want to keep paying more to NHRA and get less??? and self fund the pay out, why does this seem wrong, or am I missing something.

1320racer · 02-23-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Loge

Payouts seem to be a big issue so

Get all entries to pony up $25 cash, place in jug, jar, hat.
End of race hand to winner!

only to those that never get far enough to get paid

but I like it, "Calcutta" entries have been happening for decades in bracket racing. I'm betting you start this at divisionals and you'll quickly find out just how many think they have the skills to win the event.

doglover44 · 02-23-2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Pretty sure if Duck put on more than a couple races a year the sponsors and fans would leave too.

I've said for years that the NHRA has way too many national events. Time to start cutting them back.

I totally agree on this no need for 24 races or at least not visit the same track twice

I do think they need to add a radial tire class that seems to be popular. Look at Duck's Lights out 10 !

RJ Sledge · 02-23-2019, 11:01 AM

Hey Bruce.....did we ever locate an advocate??

" Thanks in advance for any and all responsible responses"

RJ

bigshow2966 · 02-23-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44

I do think they need to add a radial tire class that seems to be popular. Look at Duck's Lights out 10 !

The 1 big issue with running radial cars is they use a different track prep than other classes. They use more glue than Uncle Wally does for T/F. If the track is sketchy all you see is a bunch of tire smoke and wall polishing.

And the big issue at national events is still time and the tv schedule.

cmracing · 02-23-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SS/1230

BTW, I work in NYC, live in north jersey and all the D1 divisional races are 3-7 hours from my house.

I meant towing... Working is one thing, you have to go to work, and I doubt you take your rig to the city everyday.. It normally takes me 3 hours with the trailer just to get to the Verrazzano Bridge from Oceanside (29 Miles).. lol Used to take me almost 4 hours to get to Englishtown on a Thursday.. and that was only 65 miles.. so I feel your pain, but in a different way.[/QUOTE]

Seriously? Three hours to tow 30 miles? I would move or quit. Unless I knew I would be in the final round of each race I went to, I would find another hobby/sport if I had to do that. Keep at it man, not many would.

Bruce Noland · 02-25-2019, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Sledge

Hey Bruce.....did we ever locate an advocate??

" Thanks in advance for any and all responsible responses"

RJ

RJ, you know how things work here.

Some of the posts have been helpful. I have been discussing some of these issues with a potential advocate. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Dwight Southerland · 02-25-2019, 11:37 AM

Bruce -
If it were possible, it would be good to have someone to be an advocate and at the same time to be a source to know what is being discussed at NHRA for the future of Stock/Super Stock racing. At this time, NHRA is the only support that keeps this venue alive. I'm sure a lot of that is because of the continuing support of racers who grew up during the hey-day of S/SS racing and want to continue that. Realistically, the type and structure of the racing that we knew will not continue in perpetuity and certainly cannot be recreated in the current world. And that generation of racers is not immortal nor is the inventory of cars found in the Class Guides growing. In these economic times, it will probably take outside support to be able to grow a stock-bodied racing program, as we have seen with the FSS cars. A mass of individuals participating will not happen again as what established S/SS racing in the 60s and 70s. So, hopefully NHRA is doing some future planning that would be looking for sportsman level participation that will continue to generate the loyalty, excitement and participation that S/SS racing has enjoyed for the past 50 years. We would benefit from those discussions, evaluation and planning.

Warren Evans · 02-25-2019, 09:11 PM

Well, I almost hate to restart this thread, but it appears that Charles Myers is no longer with NHRA. Here is a post from his Facebook page from earlier today: "Today it was officially announced that I will be taking over as the Irwindale Dragstrip Manager and NASCAR Technical Director! I am so grateful for the opportunities and memories that the NHRA has given me over the past year. However, at this point in my career, I felt it was best to step away from the sanctioning body and return to my “roots” at the race track level. I am very excited about the future at Irwindale Dragstrip and having the ability to grow sportsman racing at the grass roots level. This new role will allow me to address some of the ongoing issues and make an impact in the racing community. I look forward to seeing all of my NHRA family at a couple of stops along the tour and hope that you will stay in touch!"

02-23-2019, 12:11 AM	#171
Scott Loge Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Livermore,Ca Posts: 334 Likes: 15 Liked 145 Times in 32 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Yes Steve has been very fortunate but all could lay it out there. Mark your in AA so let’s say each laid out 100 5 cars nets 500! Not sure about everyone but 500 Is $500. We wanna fix payout it’s on us!

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RULER Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 221 Likes: 15 Liked 58 Times in 18 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? So you want to keep paying more to NHRA and get less??? and self fund the pay out, why does this seem wrong, or am I missing something.

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RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 503 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Hey Bruce.....did we ever locate an advocate?? " Thanks in advance for any and all responsible responses" RJ

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 780 Times in 194 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Bruce - If it were possible, it would be good to have someone to be an advocate and at the same time to be a source to know what is being discussed at NHRA for the future of Stock/Super Stock racing. At this time, NHRA is the only support that keeps this venue alive. I'm sure a lot of that is because of the continuing support of racers who grew up during the hey-day of S/SS racing and want to continue that. Realistically, the type and structure of the racing that we knew will not continue in perpetuity and certainly cannot be recreated in the current world. And that generation of racers is not immortal nor is the inventory of cars found in the Class Guides growing. In these economic times, it will probably take outside support to be able to grow a stock-bodied racing program, as we have seen with the FSS cars. A mass of individuals participating will not happen again as what established S/SS racing in the 60s and 70s. So, hopefully NHRA is doing some future planning that would be looking for sportsman level participation that will continue to generate the loyalty, excitement and participation that S/SS racing has enjoyed for the past 50 years. We would benefit from those discussions, evaluation and planning. __________________

02-25-2019, 09:11 PM	#180
Warren Evans Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 354 Likes: 4 Liked 1,569 Times in 189 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Well, I almost hate to restart this thread, but it appears that Charles Myers is no longer with NHRA. Here is a post from his Facebook page from earlier today: "Today it was officially announced that I will be taking over as the Irwindale Dragstrip Manager and NASCAR Technical Director! I am so grateful for the opportunities and memories that the NHRA has given me over the past year. However, at this point in my career, I felt it was best to step away from the sanctioning body and return to my “roots” at the race track level. I am very excited about the future at Irwindale Dragstrip and having the ability to grow sportsman racing at the grass roots level. This new role will allow me to address some of the ongoing issues and make an impact in the racing community. I look forward to seeing all of my NHRA family at a couple of stops along the tour and hope that you will stay in touch!"