If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by SS/1230

I wasn't upset... its the principle of making the quota 65 cars just so they can pay us less money.

Are you aware that 65 cars is a 7 round race? And that is before any provisional entries get in.

At this year's Gators in Super Stock, the 5th round loser gets $500 and 6th round loser gets $650. Do you honestly think that the primary motivation of cutting quota from 80 to 60 is to avoid paying two guys an extra $150 each? The Winner and R/U purses do not change.

If we assume NHRA is being honest about the insurance charge and the entry is $210, they are choosing to give up $4200 in entries to save that $300 to the semifinalists plus a couple more cars in the earlier rounds?

[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Are you aware that 65 cars is a 7 round race? And that is before any provisional entries get in.

At this year's Gators in Super Stock, the 5th round loser gets $500 and 6th round loser gets $650. Do you honestly think that the primary motivation of cutting quota from 80 to 60 is to avoid paying two guys an extra $150 each? The Winner and R/U purses do not change.

If we assume NHRA is being honest about the insurance charge and the entry is $210, they are choosing to give up $4200 in entries to save that $300 to the semifinalists plus a couple more cars in the earlier rounds?

They can't load the schedule. There has to be the ability to get the TV stuff done on time AND get the race completed. They probably make that $4200 up, and a lot more, playing ads on the jumbotron during down time/track prep. 20 years ago, that entry ($245 IIRC) got me and another person in. Likely a case of oil, brake clean, deals from people on the Midway, maybe some other swag. $15k+ if the car was stickered half decent. And 650 to lose 6th round IIRC. God only knows how much less a competitive car cost to build and maintain, and the tow rig and travel cost.

Back then, the purse was relevant. Now, it's so insignificant, most people don't even pay attention or know what it is. Unless you go to the final, it's just grocery money for the weekend. Just another detail that's no longer published in the Dragster.

[1320racer]

as I stated in my 1st reply in Billy's thread that lead to this thread and a few others...

Originally Posted by 1320racer

the world changed, our country changed so why is it shocking to some that drag racing has changed. It was always about the Benjamin's. Drag racing nor our country is going back to what it was 10 years ago no mind 50 years ago and that should be obvious to all by now. Motorsports is on life support. Enjoy what time it and you have left and stop complaining.

and this...

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Stop complaining about the money, who has it, who gets it, who spends it and focus on the fact that we are all fortunate to be able to do this.

[rognelson777]

An idea for grade points for national events in home division. So your 2nd in division divisional you attend you get 2 grade points, so 2 events, 3 grade points, your 3rd in division event you get 2 more points, so 3 divisionals ls 5 grade points and 4 divisionals is 7 grade points. And no withdrawals if you enter and do not show up for national event.
This would give the in division racers a better opportunity to participate at their local national event.

[rognelson777]

Contingency, I believe one of the reasons some of this has gone away is it has moved to other series. In the 80's you had NHRA, IHRA, AHRA and only a few others.
Now you have NMCA, NMRA, PDRA that all pay contingencies. Ducks races payouts are partially funded by sponsors.

At Cecil county street car races which occur once a month april till november, Strange and others put up money to increase the race purses and a end of season champion bonus.
So there are more places to race and the money is getting is spreading out across these series.

[1320racer]

Please stop comparing what we do to ghetto racing.

[rognelson777]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Please stop comparing what we do to ghetto racing.

Are you referring to my post above your comment? If so you may want to reread my post. It has nothing to do with your so called Ghetto Racing. The point of my comment is that contingency has gone to other places away from NHRA

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by rognelson777

The point of my comment is that contingency has gone to other places away from NHRA

Pretty sure if Duck put on more than a couple races a year the sponsors and fans would leave too.

I've said for years that the NHRA has way too many national events. Time to start cutting them back.

[Scott Loge]

Ok, here goes

Payouts seem to be a big issue so

Get all entries to pony up $25 cash, place in jug, jar, hat.
End of race hand to winner! Extra 1250-1500 per race based on 60 - 65 cars.
You want more try and wager on each round!
Ex. I get x second rd. X I got 50 on me!?!?! They take it or leave it!

Laugh at it, say it’s childish but part of the allure of the street thing is the money!

Same thing for class, u all want money to go up, then lay it out there!
Ex. A/sa at Indy! (Great job by all)

[Mark Madison]

Originally Posted by Scott Loge

Ok, here goes

Payouts seem to be a big issue so

Get all entries to pony up $25 cash, place in jug, jar, hat.
End of race hand to winner! Extra 1250-1500 per race based on 60 - 65 cars.
You want more try and wager on each round!
Ex. I get x second rd. X I got 50 on me!?!?! They take it or leave it!

Laugh at it, say it’s childish but part of the allure of the street thing is the money!

Same thing for class, u all want money to go up, then lay it out there!
Ex. A/sa at Indy! (Great job by all)

A/SA at Indy???? Don’t you mean the annual Steveie Wann Charity Fund???😂😂