Let Schumacher's cars win, or else

kdanner · 05-23-2019, 05:03 PM

http://nhraracer.com/content/general...525&zoneid=132

Clearly a hit on the projected performance of the 351, not what it has actually done to date.

The fix is in. Never happen but I wish everyone would just stay home and let Schumacher race himself.

jmcarter · 05-23-2019, 05:21 PM

They keep it up and the millionaires will take their toys and go home. Don’t mean to sound childish, just hope NHRA is in constant dialogue with the teams otherwise frustration will peak.

kdanner · 05-23-2019, 05:38 PM

It's just completely beyond ridiculous.

Gators they were 25 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Charlotte, they were 23 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Virginia they just had a bad race. Out 60 footed everyone except Skinner yet were a tenth behind the best CJ/COPO at the stripe. That wouldn't have happened if they were good passes, as they could previously hang with the COPO before the 2 pulley changes. Yet they still get a gift given to them.

The NHRA guy on the podcast said they wanted these cars to run high 7.90s in mineshaft air and they would slow them down to that. Well a DP ran 7.85 in worse than mineshaft air at the Gators, yet they never attempted to slow them down, and now quite the opposite.

Fezell is the one guy who has run the 351, he's been nearly 2 tenths behind the top cars, and he loses blower OD too?

Any of this seem logical at all?

troublemaker427 · 05-23-2019, 06:05 PM

Time to just race in the NMCA. From what I've heard they aren't making anymore changes over there. DSR can't control them. Better track prep and payout too. This is ridiculous what the NHRA has allowed DSR to do.

Nick Heath · 05-23-2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

It's just completely beyond ridiculous.

Gators they were 25 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Charlotte, they were 23 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Virginia they just had a bad race. Out 60 footed everyone except Skinner yet were a tenth behind the best CJ/COPO at the stripe. That wouldn't have happened if they were good passes, as they could previously hang with the COPO before the 2 pulley changes. Yet they still get a gift given to them.

The NHRA guy on the podcast said they wanted these cars to run high 7.90s in mineshaft air and they would slow them down to that. Well a DP ran 7.85 in worse than mineshaft air at the Gators, yet they never attempted to slow them down, and now quite the opposite.

Fezell is the one guy who has run the 351, he's been nearly 2 tenths behind the top cars, and he loses blower OD too?

Any of this seem logical at all?

Fezell is running the old 5.4 (331) motor.

kdanner · 05-23-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Heath

Fezell is running the old 5.4 (331) motor.

I've heard it stated both ways, that it is the 331/TVS and the 351/2.9. Maybe both have been used this year? Regardless, there's still no justification for taking blower OD from the 351/2.9.

Superfan1 · 05-23-2019, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

It's just completely beyond ridiculous.

Gators they were 25 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Charlotte, they were 23 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway.

Virginia they just had a bad race. Out 60 footed everyone except Skinner yet were a tenth behind the best CJ/COPO at the stripe. That wouldn't have happened if they were good passes, as they could previously hang with the COPO before the 2 pulley changes. Yet they still get a gift given to them.

The NHRA guy on the podcast said they wanted these cars to run high 7.90s in mineshaft air and they would slow them down to that. Well a DP ran 7.85 in worse than mineshaft air at the Gators, yet they never attempted to slow them down, and now quite the opposite.

Fezell is the one guy who has run the 351, he's been nearly 2 tenths behind the top cars, and he loses blower OD too?

Any of this seem logical at all?

Don Fezell runs the 331 combination with the 2.3 liter supercharger and smaller throttle body; he does not run the 351. His combination will remain unchanged as stated in the article.

troublemaker427 · 05-23-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1

Don Fezell runs the 331 combination with the 2.3 liter supercharger and smaller throttle body; he does not run the 351. His combination will remain unchanged as stated in the article.

He did tell me in Richmond he had a new motor coming. Not sure if it was the 351?

bigshow2966 · 05-24-2019, 03:48 AM

Mr. Turk said on Facebook yesterday that no one is running the 351, but someone has been on the dyno with one. He did not say who.

Dyno · 05-24-2019, 09:18 AM

Mr. Danner. To keep everyone competing in this class there will be adjustments made to keep ALL contestants on an equal level. This was made last year when the Drag Pak had an advantage and now NHRA has done the same again. I know you would be happiest if it was an all Ford field, but that is not going to happen

05-23-2019, 05:03 PM	#1
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Let Schumacher's cars win, or else http://nhraracer.com/content/general...525&zoneid=132 Clearly a hit on the projected performance of the 351, not what it has actually done to date. The fix is in. Never happen but I wish everyone would just stay home and let Schumacher race himself. __________________ K Danner STK 468

05-23-2019, 05:21 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,273 Likes: 2,308 Liked 3,099 Times in 954 Posts	Re: Let Schumacher's cars win, or else They keep it up and the millionaires will take their toys and go home. Don’t mean to sound childish, just hope NHRA is in constant dialogue with the teams otherwise frustration will peak. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

05-23-2019, 05:38 PM	#3
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Let Schumacher's cars win, or else It's just completely beyond ridiculous. Gators they were 25 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway. Charlotte, they were 23 thou behind the best COPO. COPO loses blower OD anyway. Virginia they just had a bad race. Out 60 footed everyone except Skinner yet were a tenth behind the best CJ/COPO at the stripe. That wouldn't have happened if they were good passes, as they could previously hang with the COPO before the 2 pulley changes. Yet they still get a gift given to them. The NHRA guy on the podcast said they wanted these cars to run high 7.90s in mineshaft air and they would slow them down to that. Well a DP ran 7.85 in worse than mineshaft air at the Gators, yet they never attempted to slow them down, and now quite the opposite. Fezell is the one guy who has run the 351, he's been nearly 2 tenths behind the top cars, and he loses blower OD too? Any of this seem logical at all? __________________ K Danner STK 468

05-23-2019, 06:05 PM	#4
troublemaker427 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hampstead, MD. Posts: 422 Likes: 282 Liked 64 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Let Schumacher's cars win, or else Time to just race in the NMCA. From what I've heard they aren't making anymore changes over there. DSR can't control them. Better track prep and payout too. This is ridiculous what the NHRA has allowed DSR to do. __________________ Jody Aberts Troublemaker2 1966 Fairlane 427

05-24-2019, 03:48 AM	#9
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 651 Likes: 653 Liked 148 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Let Schumacher's cars win, or else Mr. Turk said on Facebook yesterday that no one is running the 351, but someone has been on the dyno with one. He did not say who.

05-24-2019, 09:18 AM	#10
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 905 Likes: 1,098 Liked 659 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Let Schumacher's cars win, or else Mr. Danner. To keep everyone competing in this class there will be adjustments made to keep ALL contestants on an equal level. This was made last year when the Drag Pak had an advantage and now NHRA has done the same again. I know you would be happiest if it was an all Ford field, but that is not going to happen