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Old 03-19-2010, 08:41 PM   #28
Chris "drooze" Wertman
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Default Re: Mixing bearings for clearance

Well, no offense taken, absolutley none.

Im actually kinda liking you already,
a) youre not saying something I dont know
b)partially accurate, any innacuaracy is not by lack of insight or poor reasoning its actually sound reasoning on your part.
c)Said what others are probably thinking but said it in a very considerate and helpful manner.

No offense at all, quite the opposite, comment appreciated and honesty appreciated.

The coatings weve been using extensivley on bikes for 20 years, that "old hat" as it were, they cryo , thats new to me but well, in the end Im only looking to lengthen the failure curve across the board between cryo and coatings perhaps 5% so that is a reasonable application and expectation I feel.

As time allows my buddies over at (an unname defense contractor here)are going to use some of the "really" trick stuff that requires things like charged phosgene fields and stuff that well, makes me nervous to even touch afterward..lol..but finding time to get it in a prototrype batch of torpedo parts gets a little "when it can be done"....so later not for the next 2 or 3 motors

Youre right , the learing experience isnt going to be cheap but our next 3 motor will be under 10k for 3 , yes for 3 complete motors.....that is a)an assortmnent of parts we already had (5.7 blocks) new DP pistons, rods, bolts, timing, pans, heads 1 extra pair of DP heads, and all the other goodies, I am 2k under that now and have all the parts in house to do 3 more motors (well the last set of pistons is on its way) Sounds crazy but this stuff (NOT the DP Specific stuff pistons and pan) is CHEAP, like crank block, rods, bolts rckers, shafts, pushrods etc, all less pistons and pan... all under 2000..... (900 of that is block and we already had 2 new 5.7 "freebie blocks".....

I learn by doing, and failing, and succedding and lather rinse repeat.

I dont want someone else to build the motors, I heard things I didnt like about the "accepted or what I should do" in regards to clearances, funny thing is Im pretty sure I didnt like it , others have agreed it was too tight.

So I ask, I weigh, I decide. I do ask things I have an opinion on if I havent decided, I hear and bounce Ideas.

I expect 1 more motor failure before we have the "secret recipe of 11 herbs and coatings"

But youre right, we are going to build 1 of the planned 3 and run it, the old man still wants to do 2 but well.....there are "secret squirrel DP owner Kabal" reasons not to just quite yet. Some, several of these "errors" in items we have just found out over the last few days. (more than we alreay knew about and that was a lot....)

I was asked to look over a collection of antique camera equiptment last night, my friend asked me how I (at 38) am one of the few people in the states that can overhaul and repair a particular type shutter on a camera as I expained, its easy you just need to destroy about 10 irreplacable pieces in short order until you get it right

What me and my father have learned so far is, some things we thought were right were wrong, some things we were told were wrong and we were right and some things we would have never done had it not been for the failures will save us more grief in the future , but we learned by doing it....were hardheaded that way. But its how WE learn....

Thanks for your honest and sincere comment, I hope my post didnt offend it was only meant to give an insight into our thinking and our reasoning.

(PSThis new COMUTER Keyboard SUCKS ! Tommorow....FIX Other Laptop.....)

Cheers

Chris
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I am going to say what others may be thinking, and don't take this the wrong way, but you need to align yourself with an stocker engine guy that knows what they are doing. Some of questions you ask, and some of the things you say about parts, rpm, and trick of the week coatings really scares me. If you don't, I'm afraid you may be in for a long, expensive education. If you do go it alone, then at least build just one motor to learn with, then if, or when, you have figured it out, spend money on the other motors you have planned. Again, don't take it as a slam, I'd just hate to see you have another oil pan failure.

Good Luck
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