2010 CJ Testing Video

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Sharx

Believe me when I say I'm not cracking on all the other things that you guys do to qualify and such but it just kills me when a couple of our local "stock and super stock guys" won't come to the local track cause that's just "bracket" racing. Like it's beneath them.

Then they wonder why they can't drive the big end to save their rear. Sure seems to me that most of the successful stock and super stock racers are darn good bracket racers, and they know when they hit the track all that piston changing and qualifying, weight, nine inch tire and fifteen pages of the rule book don't mean diddly. They are bracket racing. Does anyone have an idea how you get good at bracket racing??? PRACTICE.

As much as this board pisses and moans about the CobraJets and Drag Pack Challengers I can't believe so many know so little about them. Like the C-2 transmission.

Again I have tons of respect for the things you do in stock, but like I said on the track your just another bracket racer with shoe polish. And you guys getting worked up about it proves my point that most wont admit it.

I'll step out of your pool now that I pee'd in it. lol

Sharx, I think if you ask most older, and/or hardcore Class Racers, they'll tell you it's different because of the rules. Yes, on raceday, Super Pro and Super Stock's both use shoe polish (except for the rare heads-up run). I think the attraction of S/SS over a regular bracket car is the challenge of making a car run as fast as possible within a fairly restrictive set of rules. I'll give you an example, from my dad. As a longtime fan, he always loved Class Racing. When bracket racing took off in the 1980's, he went to our local track (Quaker City) in Ohio. He couldn't understand how a '67 Camaro, with a 454, tunnel ram, Dart-type heads Dominator, and gutted interior/engine compartment ran 10.70's, while the Ciccerrone Brothers SS/D 427/425 '69 Camaro, which weighed more, and had inferior engine parts could run in the 9's. For all the "stuff" that a comparable bracket car had over a Super Stock, it was eight tenths slower, and didn't seem too interesting to him, being a made-up, thrown-together car with better stuff and was slow. I have bracket raced my Stocker locally, and had no problem doing so, the seat time is a huge benefit. All in all, I prefer running Class-type races. If I "just" wanted to bracket race, I'd buy/build something simple, like a '79 Malbu with a 383 stroker and a 'Glide and run it in Footbrake, for less money, less hassle, etc than a Stocker. I started in brackets in 2000, and never look down on anyone for what they choose to race. Most of us on here prefer the Stock/Super Stock route. By the way, I promote and run a S/SS Association, and the only really enforced rule is "no dialing over the Class Index". No heads-up runs, all dial-in, so it really is a bracket race. I know people who don't run these types of races *because* of it, Why, I don't know. The entry vs payout is better than a Divisional race, with less travel/ less time away from home. I guess we all have our preferances to what we like to do. Just a little explanation of why (most of us) we prefer Stock/Super Stock racing to brackets.