The weekend in numbers

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Bob,

I think your numbers are a little off base. With a total of 496 cars, I think Joe will have a busy week.

Not sure why you, and some others are always looking at the quota number. A real gage on if the participation is up or down would be last years totals at the same event. last year at Topeka there was about 320 cars, with two less classes. I think it would have been about the same last year if there was the same amount classes as this year.

So your doom and gloom along with your charming way of showing your displeasure with NHRA does not hold water for this race.

Here's a prime example why NHRA will #%@* us till the cows come home.No two people on this site can agree on anything.


Ed F.

[Bob Mulry]

Ken,

I look at that because that is the number that NHRA posts as it entry quota.

I also remember when, if you didn't have 4 or 5 grade points, you stayed home.

I guess that you are using new math because the entry number that you quoted for 2008 was incorrect by 25.59%.

The actual enrty was 430 not 320 for 2008 Topeka

They are also running 1 more elimator this year (Stock) and having Class Elimations in both Stock & Super Stock

Just new math.

Bob

[Ken Miele]

Bob,

I did forget super comp, actually there was 427 total. At the last look, it is now 507, those numbers look pretty good to me.

Even with the extra class this year, the total would be about the same. I know your looking for NHRA to fail miserable, but I still have not seen the doom you and others are hoping for.

What does a 4 or 5 grading have to do with anything? Racers are just waiting to the last day to register.

My math be have been off, but using NHRA's quota is your way of making NHRA look like the are loosing racers. Given the economy, I think participation is still good.

So Bob, how will you spin the numbers now? 507 is still pretty stout!

Who's using the new math now?

Ed,

I will not agree with you and others that say NHRA is doomed, It may not be perfect, but judging by this years numbers, you and your supporters are in the minority when it comes to not going racing with NHRA.

At the Maple Grove points meet in div 1, there were 561 cars.

[Bob Mulry]

Ken,

Forgive me, but you don't have a clue of what my motives are.

So please don't try to be a mind reader and assign your thoughts to me.

We race on the west coast and the picture out here is very different from yours.

I don't have a solution, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem.

NHRA is the big show, but that doesn't mean the IHRA is not welcome out here.

Competition makes anyone better.

Bob

[Ken Miele]

Bob,

Your post is obviously negative toward NHRA, your motive is clear. The west coast has always had the problem of only one sanctioning body, nothing new there. The west coast numbers also look about the same as last year.

Like I said NHRA is not perfect, but nothing in life is, making everyone happy is an impossibility.

This thread was about numbers, you felt you needed to exploit the fact NHRA at Topeka was not looking good. Obviously they are, and all I am doing is pointing that out.

I do agree that competition is a good thing.

[Bob Mulry]

Ken,

LODRS Div. 7 - 1 Tucson
In 2008 114 entries in Stock & S/S
In 2009 84 entries in Stock & S/S
2009 had 73.6% of the 2008 race entries




LODRS Div. 7 - 2 Phoenix
In 2008 152 entries in Stock & S/S
In 2009 115 entries in Stock & S/S
2009 had 75.6% of the 2008 race entries


You might be correct about Topeka, but numbers don't lie and you still don't have a clue what my motives are,
Bob

[Ken Miele]

Keep going Bob, you will find the numbers your looking for to prove your point.

Maybe you should also look at the local bracket races from year to year.

Here is a little history for you. 2002, div 7 TUCSON, 48 Stk and 24 SS. Pretty poor showing, but the years that followed increased dramatically. I'm sure it will happen again. See I can spin numbers too.

Being down about 25% at 2 div races is not the end of NHRA.

You keep saying I don't know your motive. Bob, everyone reading this thread knows your motive.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Here's a prime example why NHRA will #%@* us till the cows come home.No two people on this site can agree on anything.


Ed F.

Ed -- Maybe things would be different if your cup was half full once in awhile ....................

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Ed -- Maybe things would be different if your cup was half full once in awhile ....................

It's not about me Jack.It's about some of us racing S/SS who are getting enhanced to death by your
friends in Glendora.Granted the economy has the most to do with the down turn in participation in the other divisions.Here in Div 1 we will always get good fields due to geography.Check Englishtown entries,
you can count out of division cars in S/SS on both hands,feet aren't needed.
I don't have the luxury of partners and favorable input with the association like you do.I'm a low buck one man operation that does ok on what I have.But like the mom and pop businesses that are going down
in this new world order all the small guys in S/SS will just have to sell their stuff,bracket race or go to car shows.
Kenny,I don't want the demise of NHRA,just for them to get their heads out of their asses and do something to make racing more attractive to sportsman racers.
Oh,BTW looks like Sorensen gets a free pass.NHRA at it's best eh?

Ed

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

It's not about me Jack.It's about some of us racing S/SS who are getting enhanced to death by your
friends in Glendora.Granted the economy has the most to do with the down turn in participation in the other divisions.Here in Div 1 we will always get good fields due to geography.Check Englishtown entries,
you can count out of division cars in S/SS on both hands,feet aren't needed.
I don't have the luxury of partners and favorable input with the association like you do.I'm a low buck one man operation that does ok on what I have.But like the mom and pop businesses that are going down
in this new world order all the small guys in S/SS will just have to sell their stuff,bracket race or go to car shows.
Kenny,I don't want the demise of NHRA,just for them to get their heads out of their asses and do something to make racing more attractive to sportsman racers.
Oh,BTW looks like Sorensen gets a free pass.NHRA at it's best eh?

Ed

Ed -- Once again you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth --you freely admit that the economy is the problem and yet you blame the folks in Glendora for enhancing us -- and just for the record exactly what favorable imput do you feel I have ? Would it not be for the economy tanking you'd be racing your *** off just like a few years back .As for Englishtown entries - yes , not many are traveling because of the cost -- nothing else as I see it .
As for the Sorensen incident -- do you have any inside info that says its over ?? Maybe you'd like to share.......