The weekend in numbers

[Bob Mulry]

Ken,

LODRS Div. 7 - 1 Tucson
In 2008 114 entries in Stock & S/S
In 2009 84 entries in Stock & S/S
2009 had 73.6% of the 2008 race entries




LODRS Div. 7 - 2 Phoenix
In 2008 152 entries in Stock & S/S
In 2009 115 entries in Stock & S/S
2009 had 75.6% of the 2008 race entries


You might be correct about Topeka, but numbers don't lie and you still don't have a clue what my motives are,
Bob

[Ken Miele]

Keep going Bob, you will find the numbers your looking for to prove your point.

Maybe you should also look at the local bracket races from year to year.

Here is a little history for you. 2002, div 7 TUCSON, 48 Stk and 24 SS. Pretty poor showing, but the years that followed increased dramatically. I'm sure it will happen again. See I can spin numbers too.

Being down about 25% at 2 div races is not the end of NHRA.

You keep saying I don't know your motive. Bob, everyone reading this thread knows your motive.

[bigshow2966]

Just asking all you guys who keep wanting the NHRA to fail: Who will provide you all a place to race after that?

IHRA? You guys hate crate motor combos, so that won't work. IHRA is in deeper crap than the NHRA anyway.

AHRA? Good chance for all of you to get in on the ground floor. He's got the rights to the name, that's all it takes to run a nationwide organization, right?

ADRL? Ooopppsss, no S/SS allowed.

NHRA has it's issues, but it is still light years ahead of anyone else.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Ed -- Maybe things would be different if your cup was half full once in awhile ....................

It's not about me Jack.It's about some of us racing S/SS who are getting enhanced to death by your
friends in Glendora.Granted the economy has the most to do with the down turn in participation in the other divisions.Here in Div 1 we will always get good fields due to geography.Check Englishtown entries,
you can count out of division cars in S/SS on both hands,feet aren't needed.
I don't have the luxury of partners and favorable input with the association like you do.I'm a low buck one man operation that does ok on what I have.But like the mom and pop businesses that are going down
in this new world order all the small guys in S/SS will just have to sell their stuff,bracket race or go to car shows.
Kenny,I don't want the demise of NHRA,just for them to get their heads out of their asses and do something to make racing more attractive to sportsman racers.
Oh,BTW looks like Sorensen gets a free pass.NHRA at it's best eh?

Ed

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

It's not about me Jack.It's about some of us racing S/SS who are getting enhanced to death by your
friends in Glendora.Granted the economy has the most to do with the down turn in participation in the other divisions.Here in Div 1 we will always get good fields due to geography.Check Englishtown entries,
you can count out of division cars in S/SS on both hands,feet aren't needed.
I don't have the luxury of partners and favorable input with the association like you do.I'm a low buck one man operation that does ok on what I have.But like the mom and pop businesses that are going down
in this new world order all the small guys in S/SS will just have to sell their stuff,bracket race or go to car shows.
Kenny,I don't want the demise of NHRA,just for them to get their heads out of their asses and do something to make racing more attractive to sportsman racers.
Oh,BTW looks like Sorensen gets a free pass.NHRA at it's best eh?

Ed

Ed -- Once again you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth --you freely admit that the economy is the problem and yet you blame the folks in Glendora for enhancing us -- and just for the record exactly what favorable imput do you feel I have ? Would it not be for the economy tanking you'd be racing your *** off just like a few years back .As for Englishtown entries - yes , not many are traveling because of the cost -- nothing else as I see it .
As for the Sorensen incident -- do you have any inside info that says its over ?? Maybe you'd like to share.......

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

my original post was just talking about the number of cars i had to do stats for this past weekend, but now some of you wanted to talk car counts of the national events, well since i keep those numbers also, here is the true numbers for 2009 so far.

...............Event.............................. .......Total # Last Yr........OV/UN
Winter Nats (Pomona)...............................339...414.. ............-75
Lucas Nats (Chandler, AZ).........................396...444............. .-48
AC/Delco Gator Nats (Ganiesville)..............433...489..............-56
O'Reilly Spring Nats (Houston)...................387...388............. ...-1
Jeg's Cajun SportsNationals (Belle Rose)....547...401..............146
Summit Nats (Vegas)................................501...373.. ............128
Jeg's Pacific SportsNats (Fontana)..............341...397.............-56
Summit Southern Nats (Atlanta).................384...471..............-87
O'Reilly Midwest Nats (St Louis).................310...355.............-45
Thunder Valley Nats (Bristol)......................277...332.......... ...-55

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Ed -- Once again you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth --you freely admit that the economy is the problem and yet you blame the folks in Glendora for enhancing us -- and just for the record exactly what favorable imput do you feel I have ? Would it not be for the economy tanking you'd be racing your *** off just like a few years back .As for Englishtown entries - yes , not many are traveling because of the cost -- nothing else as I see it .
As for the Sorensen incident -- do you have any inside info that says its over ?? Maybe you'd like to share.......

Put your reading glasses on Jack.I said PART of the reason is the economy. the other is that some people are tired of all the bull****.As an example I believe Bobby Brannon has his stuff up for sale.
I won't go into your favorable input discussion on here.
If I was still working I guarantee you NHRA would still be getting a lot less of my money than in the past.
I have a lot of alternatives.
If they haven't slapped Sorensen for the infraction yet the only way they might is if Henson and others take legal action against them.

[Jack Matyas]

Ed - Pretty nice two-step -- too bad it doesn't wash.........at the end of the day its all about the money or lack of it ! ! ! All the rest is bull............give it up .You're complaining about playing in a game where you can't keep up ( or won't ) with the costs .If you're tired of the BS all you need to do is stay in your backyard and bracket race at E-Town every Sunday -- problem solved .In my 40 plus years of racing I've never seen a racer as unhappy as you .............

PS-- As for my favorable input--- if you feel you have some dirt on me just put it out there .

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Ed - Pretty nice two-step -- too bad it doesn't wash.........at the end of the day its all about the money or lack of it ! ! ! All the rest is bull............give it up .You're complaining about playing in a game where you can't keep up ( or won't ) with the costs .If you're tired of the BS all you need to do is stay in your backyard and bracket race at E-Town every Sunday -- problem solved .In my 40 plus years of racing I've never seen a racer as unhappy as you .............

PS-- As for my favorable input--- if you feel you have some dirt on me just put it out there .

It has some to do with my currant $$ situation but in general it's the way your NHRA friends are treating
sportsman racers.This sport will survive without me.It will even survive without Jack Matyas also.
I'm far from unhappy when I'm at the track.I have the small circle of friends that hang out and help each other out.And we eat real well to boot.
Weekly brackets is not for me anymore.
The issue isn;'t dirt.Let's just say some are allowed things others aren't.Period,
Admit it Jack,it scares you to death to be beaten by any of us low dollar guys who don't have as much money in our cars as you do in your rims and tires. Goodbye Jack.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

It has some to do with my currant $$ situation but in general it's the way your NHRA friends are treating
sportsman racers.This sport will survive without me.It will even survive without Jack Matyas also.
I'm far from unhappy when I'm at the track.I have the small circle of friends that hang out and help each other out.And we eat real well to boot.
Weekly brackets is not for me anymore.
The issue isn;'t dirt.Let's just say some are allowed things others aren't.Period,
Admit it Jack,it scares you to death to be beaten by any of us low dollar guys who don't have as much money in our cars as you do in your rims and tires. Goodbye Jack.

Drag racing will certainly survive without me no doubt about it .As for being beaten by a low buck team you're all wet about this one as getting beat by anyone hurts equally -- why the complex ? There was a low buck Nova this weekend at the Lucas race just kickin' *** and takin' no names -- and I was rootin' for 'em . At the end of the day its not about how much $$ you have in your car -- its how much heart you have in your chest .