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Old 06-23-2009, 10:14 AM   #1
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Here's my thought.

The fields should be closed, period.

While it may not in the best interest $$ wise, the people that didn’t show up because they didn’t want to sit in the rain…blah,blah,blah shouldn’t be able to
Run next time. After all if we would have run the race, they opted not to go by choice, be it weather or whatever so why punish the people that attended. The fields should be and stay closed in all categories my opinion. One more reason is this, that late in the season with "points" on the line if the fields were "open" that gives anyone from anywhere a chance to attend and do damage.
Again this is just my opinion...bring on the bashing...


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Old 06-23-2009, 10:39 AM   #2
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Here's my thought.

The fields should be closed, period.

While it may not in the best interest $$ wise, the people that didn’t show up because they didn’t want to sit in the rain…blah,blah,blah shouldn’t be able to
Run next time. After all if we would have run the race, they opted not to go by choice, be it weather or whatever so why punish the people that attended. The fields should be and stay closed in all categories my opinion. One more reason is this, that late in the season with "points" on the line if the fields were "open" that gives anyone from anywhere a chance to attend and do damage.
Again this is just my opinion...bring on the bashing...


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Deb,

Your completely wrong on this matter, you have no right saying what your saying. I have no idea why your wrong, just wanted to do a little bashing. As you can tell, i am a little slow at work and have to much time on my hands.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:59 AM   #3
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I say, OPEN IT UP.

Stock and Super Stock have random first round pairings in the rescheduled October race, so no matter how fast or slow they qualified in June, it has NO bearing on the rescheduled October race.

From a racer standpoint in the three .90 classes, you were going to be a random pairing in June so what advantage or disadvantage do you really have if they open up the fields in October.

I can appreciate the fact that some people made the drive to Atco to ultimately sit around and never compete in a round of competition, but what difference does this make when allowing new entries to now attend? Are we rewarding patronage or penalizing absence?

If this was a Big Dollar bracket race or you typical Saturday/Sunday one day bracket race the decision would be a, "No Brainer" and universal throughout the country. The fields would be open.

From a financial standpoint, the tracks have been taking a beating this year with the rain, I say let Joe Sway and the NHRA get a chance to recoup some lost income, it only makes sense.

For those that didn't attend, whether it be a financial decision to stay home and wait for a better weather forecast, a broken race car, a business (job) commitment or a host of other reasons, in today's economy and financial climate if you don't cater to your consumer shame on you.

As far as allowing persons from other divisions to attend and potentially receive double points for one weekend...that's how it should be. If you are the best on that day you deserve to win. I don't care what division you are from. There is enough talent in Division 1 to hold our own against invaders.

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:06 AM   #4
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Johnny makes some great points but... word from the "top" is, fields WILL NOT be re-opened. Deb's reasons were just about dead-on. It also looks like if you show up for the originally scheduled October event there will only be 2 time runs, one Friday and 1 Saturday.
Oh well....
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Atco Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series Rained Out
Due to the inclement weather throughout the weekend, the Atco Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event has been postponed to October 2. The fields are set and no new entries will be accepted. Stock and Super Stock first round will be random pairing. On Friday morning, we will give ALL competitors one time run and then run the first event to completion. Saturday Morning there will be one time run followed by first round eliminations of the second event.

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #5
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John,

This isnt a bracket race. If you didnt attend the first time for whatever the reason, and we ran the race, no one who "sat home" would be complaining. Just missed the race. But because those of us who did stay and wait for them to call the race, why should we be penalized because we chose to attend. I agree that financially everyone is taking a hit, but again if we ran the race on the scheduled date the money wouldnt have changed.
This is like arm chair quaterbacking....love those monday's

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:45 AM   #6
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But because those of us who did stay and wait for them to call the race, why should we be penalized




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I am not too sure how you or anyone who was able to attend are being penalized. By penalized do you mean you will have to add another round to the race? By penalized do you mean you will have to run a potentially tougher opponent? I don't buy the penalized theory and I'm not really sure what it means.

The June race is over. No winner and no losers. There is no ladder in Stock/Super Stock and no pairings in the lanes for the three .90 classes.

I say, new day, new race, new racers.

But what do I know, I've been known to not see eye to eye with the NHRA.

Maggiulli Jr.

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:33 AM   #7
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I agree w/ John but I was not there last weekend and I will be in the fall so my opinion is a little tainted (yes I did just say tainted) .

Deb had a very good point about points implacations (hope I spelled that correct) but rather you get 2 shots @ points in one place or have to travel, I believe if your in the hunt, you will do what is needed.

At worst, I would let people in and give them the grade point if they wanted it (not in the points hunt but still want the grade) and let them compete, but don't let their points count. This way it lets Joe and NHRA rebound and get some extra money and give a chance for some extra people to compete.

I would race and not take the grade, but be willing to spend to have a chance at some $$$ and Wally. If I'm not in the top 5 when the race comes around, I would take the grade.

It has been an awful year for the tracks, I would just hate to see them have to turn away people that want to race.
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They should keep the fields open and all new players get no points and can be blockers.
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I would agree with that...No new points for those who didn't attend in June but open the fields up to everyone.

I'm with Pete and Gary, the Wally and Dead Presidents are where it's at.
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Default Re: Rescheduled Atco Divisional

I was there and I did sit in the Rain with everyone else. I had a good feeling the race wouldn't be finished. But I do agree that the field should be opened, for many reasons:

1) NHRA has been complaining about low car counts, well this is a good way to change that
2) people who were not able to attend the past date will be able to go and have fun and race.
3) It makes no difference as far as who you race, because it is random anyway.

If we are going to penalize people then should we not allow the people who left before they called the race not allowed to compete in October.

It is all pointless, Lets let everyone race and have fun, what is the big deal? I sat there and waited and didnt race, but i will not get mad if someone else comes in and kicks my butt, if that happens I should have ran a better race.

Maybe the people who were not entered before do not get a time run, but the people who did sit in the rain ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A TIME RUN. That would be fun!
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