Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Here is one from Bristol 1967, he won the stock eliminator there.

Tony,

I tried to send the pic's of my '58 Pontiac to your address but it said it was the wrong address. Please send me a PM .

Jim

[Tony Janes]

PM sent

[Keith Lynch]

Hey Joe, I've been around longer than even I thought. Just plain sic! lol First national event was '67 Winters, seems like yesterday....yea right

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by Keith Lynch

Hey Joe, I've been around longer than even I thought. Just plain sic! lol First national event was '67 Winters, seems like yesterday....yea right

Your not the only one thats been around a while Keith.....I was at Indy racing a car in 1966 and it definately is only a distant memory ........

[bill dedman]

I was at the NHRA Oklahoma City Nationals in '57 when John Zink's 317 HP Tri-Power, solid-lifter, Chieftan showed 'em all the way home in Stock.... but I had to leave early and didn't get to see it...

He ran 94+mph (dunno the e.t.), through the mufflers, with the air cleaner on, and on street rubber. 3-speed stick car.

I've always heard that the supercharged Fords were the baddest pure stock cars around in '57, and we all know how fast the Fuelie 283's were, but this Pontiac ran roughshod over the entire field......

[49KB5]

I don't think most would prefer a Jetaway or Stratoflight. Bill, you mentioned Fred Borcherdt. Fred did have an injection on his 57 Pontiac Safari Catalina wagon. It had a Jetaway (I think) in it, and he was always swearing that he was going to put one of his dual range hydros in it when the Jetaway finally broke, but it never did. Fred's 57 Pontiac Junior Stocker had a dual range hydro in it, but finally was flagged in inspection as 56 was the last year Pontiac had a dual range in them. A funnier combination was his 48 Jeep pick up which had a 327 Chevrolet with the Rochester injection, still 4wd, and the Borg Warner overdrive. When Fred partnered with John Thropp for John's Passionate Poncho, 57 Pontiac with injection, it had the Jetaway and he worked and worked experimenting to try to get the small fluid coupling for 4th to fill faster. That car made it to the World Finals stock eliminator final round, but JT redlighted.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

Here is a shot of Mary Ann's at the 1964 Indy Nationals

[49KB5]

One other comment. The 57 FI intake was made from stamped sheet metal. Fred B always said that it flowed better than the porous Chevrolet aluminum cast runners / intake. I am fairly certain that the 58 Pontiacs had the cast aluminum.

[Larry Fulton]

Back to the top, for more interest in Ramon's car.

Lots of Jr. Stocker / Stocker chatter over at Jalopy Journal hamb site also.

Larry