Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton - Page 3

Tony Janes · 06-26-2009, 11:25 AM

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Tony Janes · 06-26-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

I have one just like Mary Ann Foss's....black, tri-carb, posi, auto, black with only 28,000 mile ...all original except for rubber products....tires, belts, hoses, etc.

I bought it out of Ohio about three years ago. I have all the paper work and verified mileage statements.......it's a beauty!

My pictures were to big to download here so I'll have to figure a way to shrink them if anyone wants to see them.

Jim

Here are three of Jim's pictures of his 1958 Pontiac. I sent 3 of the five pictures

7820 · 06-26-2009, 01:19 PM

The distribution block that feeds fuel to the tri power looks like the brake distribution block on my '65 GTO.

treessavoy · 06-26-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Here are three of Jim's pictures of his 1958 Pontiac. I sent 3 of the five pictures

Thanks a lot tony, hope people like seeing the FIRST GTO.....LOL!

What most people don't know is that the car is NOT restored, it has one re-paint otherwise it's just like delivered in 1958!

Jim

GTO/GN · 06-26-2009, 02:28 PM

Stu Rogers ... Now there is a name I haven't heard in long time.. I remember him at Raceway E-Town NJ back in the 70's... He did make them Pontiacs run..

Keith Lynch · 06-26-2009, 05:19 PM

Hey Joe, I've been around longer than even I thought. Just plain sic! lol First national event was '67 Winters, seems like yesterday....yea right

Rich Biebel · 06-26-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GTO/GN

Stu Rogers ... Now there is a name I haven't heard in long time.. I remember him at Raceway E-Town NJ back in the 70's... He did make them Pontiacs run..

Stu was quite a character...I worked for him for a while at Tony Feil's. We worked on cars in the back. Super Tuned them along with anything and everything. Stu and Craig were buddy's/ Stu could make any Pontiac run. Stu even knew Jess Tyree,,,,,a F/C racer who used a pontiac engine. We worked on his stuff once in a thrash during a race he was running at E-Town..... A Nitro burning Pontiac, now that's pretty crazy but it's true.....I was there....I always wondered what happened to Stu......I heard he was in Florida and was not well and that was a long time ago....He was an onery S.O.B. and would argue with anyone but man he was a very smart guy when it came to cars and drag racing......

Rich Biebel · 06-26-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Lynch

Hey Joe, I've been around longer than even I thought. Just plain sic! lol First national event was '67 Winters, seems like yesterday....yea right

Your not the only one thats been around a while Keith.....I was at Indy racing a car in 1966 and it definately is only a distant memory ........

bill dedman · 06-27-2009, 03:16 AM

I was at the NHRA Oklahoma City Nationals in '57 when John Zink's 317 HP Tri-Power, solid-lifter, Chieftan showed 'em all the way home in Stock.... but I had to leave early and didn't get to see it...

He ran 94+mph (dunno the e.t.), through the mufflers, with the air cleaner on, and on street rubber. 3-speed stick car.

I've always heard that the supercharged Fords were the baddest pure stock cars around in '57, and we all know how fast the Fuelie 283's were, but this Pontiac ran roughshod over the entire field......

49KB5 · 07-13-2009, 12:31 PM

I don't think most would prefer a Jetaway or Stratoflight. Bill, you mentioned Fred Borcherdt. Fred did have an injection on his 57 Pontiac Safari Catalina wagon. It had a Jetaway (I think) in it, and he was always swearing that he was going to put one of his dual range hydros in it when the Jetaway finally broke, but it never did. Fred's 57 Pontiac Junior Stocker had a dual range hydro in it, but finally was flagged in inspection as 56 was the last year Pontiac had a dual range in them. A funnier combination was his 48 Jeep pick up which had a 327 Chevrolet with the Rochester injection, still 4wd, and the Borg Warner overdrive. When Fred partnered with John Thropp for John's Passionate Poncho, 57 Pontiac with injection, it had the Jetaway and he worked and worked experimenting to try to get the small fluid coupling for 4th to fill faster. That car made it to the World Finals stock eliminator final round, but JT redlighted.

06-26-2009, 11:25 AM	#21
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton PM sent __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

06-26-2009, 01:19 PM	#23
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton The distribution block that feeds fuel to the tri power looks like the brake distribution block on my '65 GTO.

06-26-2009, 02:28 PM	#25
GTO/GN Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton Stu Rogers ... Now there is a name I haven't heard in long time.. I remember him at Raceway E-Town NJ back in the 70's... He did make them Pontiacs run..

06-26-2009, 05:19 PM	#26
Keith Lynch Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton Hey Joe, I've been around longer than even I thought. Just plain sic! lol First national event was '67 Winters, seems like yesterday....yea right __________________ Keith Lynch 5035 STK

06-27-2009, 03:16 AM	#29
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton I was at the NHRA Oklahoma City Nationals in '57 when John Zink's 317 HP Tri-Power, solid-lifter, Chieftan showed 'em all the way home in Stock.... but I had to leave early and didn't get to see it... He ran 94+mph (dunno the e.t.), through the mufflers, with the air cleaner on, and on street rubber. 3-speed stick car. I've always heard that the supercharged Fords were the baddest pure stock cars around in '57, and we all know how fast the Fuelie 283's were, but this Pontiac ran roughshod over the entire field...... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 06-27-2009 at 03:19 AM.

07-13-2009, 12:31 PM	#30
49KB5 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ramon Lowe '58 Cheifton I don't think most would prefer a Jetaway or Stratoflight. Bill, you mentioned Fred Borcherdt. Fred did have an injection on his 57 Pontiac Safari Catalina wagon. It had a Jetaway (I think) in it, and he was always swearing that he was going to put one of his dual range hydros in it when the Jetaway finally broke, but it never did. Fred's 57 Pontiac Junior Stocker had a dual range hydro in it, but finally was flagged in inspection as 56 was the last year Pontiac had a dual range in them. A funnier combination was his 48 Jeep pick up which had a 327 Chevrolet with the Rochester injection, still 4wd, and the Borg Warner overdrive. When Fred partnered with John Thropp for John's Passionate Poncho, 57 Pontiac with injection, it had the Jetaway and he worked and worked experimenting to try to get the small fluid coupling for 4th to fill faster. That car made it to the World Finals stock eliminator final round, but JT redlighted.