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Old 08-10-2009, 05:59 PM   #1
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Default Re: IHRA Modified Eliminator Video Clip - Mid 80's

And they replaced that with what? Brake light, throttle stoped, stutter boxed, delay boxed, timer shifted X box games with G forces....
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:18 PM   #2
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8000 rpm is way to low for most of those cars in the video clip. Almost any good small block of the era saw well over 9000 and the real small motors might see 10 grand. The car I was associated with was a C/SM Camaro with motors right around 300 cubic inches and it saw 9200-9300 every run..... It ran as quick as 10.40's at 128-129. Made 570hp on the dyno with a 750 carb and unported 461x iron heads...


And for everyone that thinks they were great...well they were but you couldn't race one by yourself. The amount of work needed to fix stuff and keep the car running when it broke was too much usually for one person. Driveline breakage was pretty bad before they had good transmissions and clutches. Motors took a beating at those rpms.

I'll take modern delay box, big tow truck motor, throttle stopped racing anyday.....Maintenance consists of a wash and wax between races, maybe an oil change and add fuel between rounds.....Way better than trying to change a blazing red hot burned up busted up clutch!
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #3
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8000 rpm is way to low for most of those cars in the video clip. Almost any good small block of the era saw well over 9000 and the real small motors might see 10 grand. The car I was associated with was a C/SM Camaro with motors right around 300 cubic inches and it saw 9200-9300 every run..... It ran as quick as 10.40's at 128-129. Made 570hp on the dyno with a 750 carb and unported 461x iron heads...


And for everyone that thinks they were great...well they were but you couldn't race one by yourself. The amount of work needed to fix stuff and keep the car running when it broke was too much usually for one person. Driveline breakage was pretty bad before they had good transmissions and clutches. Motors took a beating at those rpms.

I'll take modern delay box, big tow truck motor, throttle stopped racing anyday.....Maintenance consists of a wash and wax between races, maybe an oil change and add fuel between rounds.....Way better than trying to change a blazing red hot burned up busted up clutch!
Ahhh Rich you're getting old.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:14 PM   #4
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Ahhh Rich you're getting old.

Now thats funny coming from you Ed..... but true....Keep in mind I still roll out of bed about 6 am everyday and go to work......Old bones are getting creaky......
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:34 PM   #5
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Default Re: IHRA Modified Eliminator Video Clip - Mid 80's

Now that was racing....no spectator problem...It's been a long time since I've a crowd like that watching sportsman cars...I wish it could be like that again some day....maybe it will. Anyway, thanks for the clip. You know I like it....check my profile!
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And for everyone that thinks they were great...well they were but you couldn't race one by yourself. The amount of work needed to fix stuff and keep the car running when it broke was too much usually for one person. Driveline breakage was pretty bad before they had good transmissions and clutches. Motors took a beating at those rpms.

I'll take modern delay box, big tow truck motor, throttle stopped racing anyday.....Maintenance consists of a wash and wax between races, maybe an oil change and add fuel between rounds.....Way better than trying to change a blazing red hot burned up busted up clutch!
I can understand it from your perspective but to me that is not real drag racing. And just look at 'all' the spectators in the stands.

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I can understand it from your perspective but to me that is not real drag racing. And just look at 'all' the spectators in the stands.

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Some tracks drew big crowds ...and that track was one of them as I recall. There were lots of spectators even at my local track sometimes on a saturday night in the '60s. Those days are long gone. It was a different time and era for lots of reasons. If you view real dragracing as only high reving stick shift door cars..."to each his own" as the saying goes. They were fun to watch and race as I said but those days went the way of the rotary telephone.......
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It was a different time and era for lots of reasons.
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If you view real dragracing as only high reving stick shift door cars..."to each his own" as the saying goes.
I like Stockers and Super Stockers regardless of transmission--even Comp cars--but I must admit, those high-rpm, stick cars are my favorite to watch since day one except not as much as it used to be thanks to the two-step rev limiters that most guys use nowadays.

What I view as not "real" drag racing is bracket racing with its plethora of electronics, virtually all-automatic transmission field, the "let's overbuild it, short-shift it so we can get 1000 runs out of the engine" mentality; driving games and sandbagging of every sort; and in more than a few cases, less than professional appearing/built cars.

And don't get me started on all the front wheel drive imports and the baggy pants-wearing, "yo-yo-yo, wazzup" crowd associated with them which now infest drag strips.

Believe me, I have no contempt or disrespect for people involved with bracket racing. I can fully understand the reasons from a cost and maintenance perspective. But it's just not my "cup of tea," and like you said: "to each his own."

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They were fun to watch and race as I said but those days went the way of the rotary telephone.......
Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

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I like Stockers and Super Stockers regardless of transmission--even Comp cars--but I must admit, those high-rpm, stick cars are my favorite to watch since day one except not as much as it used to be thanks to the two-step rev limiters that most guys use nowadays.

What I view as not "real" drag racing is bracket racing with its plethora of electronics, virtually all-automatic transmission field, the "let's overbuild it, short-shift it so we can get 1000 runs out of the engine" mentality; driving games and sandbagging of every sort; and in more than a few cases, less than professional appearing/built cars.

And don't get me started on all the front wheel drive imports and the baggy pants-wearing, "yo-yo-yo, wazzup" crowd associated with them which now infest drag strips.

Believe me, I have no contempt or disrespect for people involved with bracket racing. I can fully understand the reasons from a cost and maintenance perspective. But it's just not my "cup of tea," and like you said: "to each his own."



Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

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Old 08-12-2009, 08:05 PM   #10
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I can understand it from your perspective but to me that is not real drag racing. And just look at 'all' the spectators in the stands.

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Just look at the crowds exactly!!! Stick Cars rule !
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