my opinion

[Don Kennedy]

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[Don Kennedy]

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[Don Kennedy]

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[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

if no one has any comments about my ideas of the points chase i will when I get back from church delete all the posts i have made . Why you ask cause I can

My solution to the The problem of the average sportsman not having a chance to win the championship is to change the way points are calculated to create a level playing field for all sportsman to have a chance to win the world championship . According to Mike carr 48% of touring pros won national events and 33% won divisional event swhich is a huge glaring figure even proving my point of the present points system iis not a good

one option is to only allow a sportsman to use so many races with in his division only count as points for the world championship . This would cut down some traveling even for the touring Pro sportsman .

another option is to then take the top 5 racers in each division and have a national even run off to decide the champion . NHRA could pay these racers to show up at an event to have the race>

another option is have a Lucas would champion only from the division races and then have a champion only for the national events races .

What I am trying to show is that there are really good racers who will never win the championship because they are not a Touring pro sportsman .

Some of the above options would also open up some More Sponsors to get involved with say the Divisional Lucas World champion and then The National Full Throttle World Champion

You need to start another thread about points.I agree with you that something should be changed.You are allowed to take your best 5 divisionals out of 8,yet some divisions only have 5 divisionals to begin with,which forces a lot of additional travel.Maybe best 5 of 6 or 7?

That being said,I still don't understand what this has to do with Pro Tree and Deep staging which started this whole thread.

[Mark Faul]

I agree, what does the latest rant have to do with the pro tree idea?

Don, you only use bits and pieces of various posts to make your point. Mike Carr stated his stats based on two car AND/OR touring pro sportsman racers. The current points system makes it pretty fair for anyone to have an opportunity to be world champion. I went to 16 national events. Did I have an advantage over anyone in points? NO! Because you can only claim your best 3 out of the first 6 you attend!

Are you really complaining about the "touring pros" or all 2 car racers? Most 2 car guys don't come up late on purpose. Sometimes you get stuck ay the scales, fuel check, getting back to your pit to get the other car, and then hauling *** back to the lanes. HOPING you have time to collect your breath and have a few seconds to check your tires and putting a dial-in on the car!

It seems you bring up these same complaints about the touring pros every 2-3 years.....

[Jeff Lee]

First post: Deep staging and pro-tree - In Super Stock, as it is perfectly LEGAL, some of the more "seasoned" racers have built in delays which are ADJUSTABLE in their transmissions or the components surrounding their transmissions or the devices which control the vehicle reaction time. Those that don't get this or deny their useage are plain NAIVE or maybe even STUPID. Don Kennedy is fully aware of not one, but all of these methods in controlling reaction times. And so are the "touring pros" reading this.
Allowing for a pro-tree and / or deep staging would NEGATE many of these tactics. And best of all it would negate or limit these tactics for FREE.

Second post: Touring pro's - The touring pro, as pointed out below by Mark Faul has many dilemmas in getting back to the staging lanes. TRUE! But why should NHRA personnel, much less their competitor be held accountable for their issues? If I race SS, I race SS. If the pro wants to race Stock and SS (or comp or whatever), he takes on the issue, not the rest of us. Anybody that has not seen the officials accommodate these racers is BLIND.
Divisional and national event point system is FLAWED and (again) accommodates the touring pro. In the "old days" a racer claimed the race he attended AT THE GATE when he paid his money. And as today, the amount of races you could claim was dictated. If you claimed a race and failed 1st round, it directly affected your points. If you won the race, same thing. NOW you can tour the whole country and "pick and choose" the races you want to claim. Therefore, the advantage WILL ALWAYS be to the touring pro over the "local yocal" The stat Don should have posted other than that other list of BS is who attends the most races and filters out the "BAD" races. The guy that has a 40 hour a week job has almost no chance of winning a championship. Right now the system is not only structured for the full - time traveling sportsman, it actually encourages it.

Bring it back to claiming a race before racing the event and retaining the allowable divisional / national races as well as points for #1 qualifier and points for national records (remember, this is supposed to be a "performance based class") and EVERYBODY is on level playing fields.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

First post: Deep staging and pro-tree - In Super Stock, as it is perfectly LEGAL, some of the more "seasoned" racers have built in delays which are ADJUSTABLE in their transmissions or the components surrounding their transmissions or the devices which control the vehicle reaction time. Those that don't get this or deny their useage are plain NAIVE or maybe even STUPID. Don Kennedy is fully aware of not one, but all of these methods in controlling reaction times. And so are the "touring pros" reading this.
Allowing for a pro-tree and / or deep staging would NEGATE many of these tactics. And best of all it would negate or limit these tactics for FREE.

Second post: Touring pro's - The touring pro, as pointed out below by Mark Faul has many dilemmas in getting back to the staging lanes. TRUE! But why should NHRA personnel, much less their competitor be held accountable for their issues? If I race SS, I race SS. If the pro wants to race Stock and SS (or comp or whatever), he takes on the issue, not the rest of us. Anybody that has not seen the officials accommodate these racers is BLIND.
Divisional and national event point system is FLAWED and (again) accommodates the touring pro. In the "old days" a racer claimed the race he attended AT THE GATE when he paid his money. And as today, the amount of races you could claim was dictated. If you claimed a race and failed 1st round, it directly affected your points. If you won the race, same thing. NOW you can tour the whole country and "pick and choose" the races you want to claim. Therefore, the advantage WILL ALWAYS be to the touring pro over the "local yocal" The stat Don should have posted other than that other list of BS is who attends the most races and filters out the "BAD" races. The guy that has a 40 hour a week job has almost no chance of winning a championship. Right now the system is not only structured for the full - time traveling sportsman, it actually encourages it.

Bring it back to claiming a race before racing the event and retaining the allowable divisional / national races as well as points for #1 qualifier and points for national records (remember, this is supposed to be a "performance based class") and EVERYBODY is on level playing fields.

The same guys will STILL win as many races and because they're so good the percentages are with them that they will get points at every race they claim.It is what it is no matter what you "welfare " racers do to throw obstacles in their way.
BTW Don,no reply on specifics of my "so called" name calling?
The match race I would pay to see is Don against the Energizer Battery rabbit.I think Don would outlast even him.