Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

There will always be a way to get around any system that is in place. If you use 1/8 mile times people will lift a 330.

Hey, didn't Billy say that already.

[Ron Ortiz]

Would all of you people go back and read my post. You all need to get ahold of those five people in that Committee.

They already have all the incrimental times, they have been gathering information for the past year. It has been presented to the Comp Comm already. What are they doing about it, they are ignoring it. Don't you all get it! If you want results put pressure on this Comm.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA do not be stupid, take action

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Would all of you people go back and read my post. You all need to get ahold of those five people in that Committee.

They already have all the incrimental times, they have been gathering information for the past year. It has been presented to the Comp Comm already. What are they doing about it, they are ignoring it. Don't you all get it! If you want results put pressure on this Comm.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA do not be stupid, take action

Ron how should they decide what HP? What criteria? By Compression? By Camshaft? By Carb/Throttle body? Different engines respond to different things.
My camshaft is only .492 lift. And I can run anything I want. Bigger cams have been tried but they don't seem to work. If my motor had .580 lift or so it wouldn't get out of it's own way.
It will take some time but it will work itself out.
The Hemi stocker guys had fits when the street hemi E body got hit a few years ago.
Well back in the "good old days" that motor was 440 hp. NHRA decided that 425 (factory number) was to low So they made it 440 in stock and 480 in superstock. Before a car ever went down the track.
Is this what you want to return to?

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by art leong

Ron how should they decide what HP? What criteria? By Compression? By Camshaft? By Carb/Throttle body? Different engines respond to different things.
My camshaft is only .492 lift. And I can run anything I want. Bigger cams have been tried but they don't seem to work. If my motor had .580 lift or so it wouldn't get out of it's own way.
It will take some time but it will work itself out.
The Hemi stocker guys had fits when the street hemi E body got hit a few years ago.
Well back in the "good old days" that motor was 440 hp. NHRA decided that 425 (factory number) was to low So they made it 440 in stock and 480 in superstock. Before a car ever went down the track.
Is this what you want to return to?

Some very valid points to consider Art. Bigger is always not better in certain engine builds. This whole thread was based on how bogus the 5.7 Hemi was rated. Maybe we should all get back on track since this topic just turned into another, "bash the NHRA" thread. To those who don't like what NHRA is doing, past or present?...Go throw your keg's of tea into the Boston Harbor and have yourselves a party.

Anyways, There are at least 4, maybe 5 DP cars with this particular package. None of which have even hit the 1320 as of yet. Our 5.7 DP is still on the chassis jig and has already been bench raced and factored to death. lol Do I particular like the options on the 5.7 engine package that Mopar gave us? No... Could have made more power with less.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

You and those valve sizes....lol.........

See everyone has something to bitch about even the DP guys.....

Originally Posted by hemidup

Some very valid points to consider Art. Bigger is always not better in certain engine builds. This whole thread was based on how bogus the 5.7 Hemi was rated. Maybe we should all get back on track since this topic just turned into another, "bash the NHRA" thread. To those who don't like what NHRA is doing, past or present?...Go throw your keg's of tea into the Boston Harbor and have yourselves a party.

Anyways, There are at least 4, maybe 5 DP cars with this particular package. None of which have even hit the 1320 as of yet. Our 5.7 DP is still on the chassis jig and has already been bench raced and factored to death. lol Do I particular like the options on the 5.7 engine package that Mopar gave us? No... Could have made more power with less.

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by drooze

You and those valve sizes....lol.........

See everyone has something to bitch about even the DP guys.....

And Chris, we never even discussed TB size. Made the same power with a single blade 3.30" as a bench raced proclaimed, whoop azz factory supplied 1000 cfm. BTW, 3.34" and 3.54" single blade TB's net basically the same results. Now that we talked about how much air goes into the pump, we should talk about how much air goes out of the pump. Oh wait, we already discussed headers and wasn't that a surprise.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by hemidup

And Chris, we never even discussed TB size. Made the same power with a single blade 3.30" as a bench raced proclaimed, whoop azz factory supplied 1000 cfm. BTW, 3.34" and 3.54" single blade TB's net basically the same results. Now that we talked about how much air goes into the pump, we should talk about how much air goes out of the pump. Oh wait, we already discussed headers and wasn't that a surprise.

Thats why those are still in the Box, Ill try em but I dont feel like tiging the bungs on for the EGT's and yeah the "Secret Squirrel" Models Pete Z made me up, well theyre awesome...Torque like this ? Well, specially on the 5.7......540ft lbs at 4500-5000 depending on advance......I think Im gonna have the Stainless sent back and 3 stepped like Petes....

April fools all........maybe.......maybe not.