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Old 09-05-2010, 10:30 PM   #1
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Bruce, You forget the pivotal point. THEY own the "football". They will change whatever rules, whenever and however they wish REGARDLESS of input. It is not a democracy it is a business. (Poorly run in some areas as seen by class racers but) Not a Democracy! THEIR business....Racers are just participants who pay entry to play by THE rules given.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:00 AM   #2
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Dick I think you miss the point. How do "they" own anything? Did "they" invest their own money and buy or build NHRA? If it's their business how can "they operate as a non profit 501 c6 corporation which clearly states that you can not operate as a for profit business? I think when then rocks are finally turned over some things may change.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:02 AM   #3
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Bruce, You forget the pivotal point. THEY own the "football". They will change whatever rules, whenever and however they wish REGARDLESS of input. It is not a democracy it is a business. (Poorly run in some areas as seen by class racers but) Not a Democracy! THEIR business....Racers are just participants who pay entry to play by THE rules given.
Dick,
It is thinking like this that has enabled this organization to scam both the racers and general public. "They" own nothing. "They" is a 501 (c)(6) not for profit corporation . "They" have been sucking off the public dole for more than 50 years. "They" have certain rules that "they" must adhere to in order for them to continue to suck off our tax dollars. And "they" aren't playing by the rules and therefore "they" will receive a very rude awakening for their illegal policies. I hope you understand now. That even "they" have rules and that there are agencies charged with oversight of these rules. These agencies can produce a terrible bite if alerted to the facts.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:20 AM   #4
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If you guys are so pissed at NHRA, why don't you switch to IHRA?
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If you guys are so pissed at NHRA, why don't you switch to IHRA?
This is not in the cards. Some wouldnt switch even if hell froze over. Plus the travel distance involved.
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Terry,
You need to get off this kick about racers switching to IHRA. You can bet your bottom dollar that racers would go IHRA racing if the big dawg bites the dust. In other words: Racers are going to race. They cannot resist the impulse to race.
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Terry,
You need to get off this kick about racers switching to IHRA. You can bet your bottom dollar that racers would go IHRA racing if the big dawg bites the dust. In other words: Racers are going to race. They cannot resist the impulse to race.
Bruce.....You forget I spent 22 1/2 years trying to talk NHRA guys into trying IHRA even when an IHRA race was in thier back yards and IHRA was bigger with great payouts. They still wouldnt show even when nothing else was going on within a few hundred miles. Some have tried it yes but a LOT will not unless NHRA ever bites the "Big One" . Its just the nature of the beast and with the down economy most have only so much time or money to attend what they think is right for them. They way IHRA is today Im not sure I would even race with them but it is another venue with a great buch of guys/gals racing and working the events.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:41 AM   #8
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Bruce.....You forget I spent 22 1/2 years trying to talk NHRA guys into trying IHRA even when an IHRA race was in thier back yards and IHRA was bigger with great payouts. They still wouldnt show even when nothing else was going on within a few hundred miles. Some have tried it yes but a LOT will not unless NHRA ever bites the "Big One" . Its just the nature of the beast and with the down economy most have only so much time or money to attend what they think is right for them. They way IHRA is today Im not sure I would even race with them but it is another venue with a great buch of guys/gals racing and working the events.
Terry, it just may end up that the IH organization "bites the big one" before the NH group.....then it will get even worse for sportsman racers. Must be a big reason why Epping pulled the plug, no? Just my thoughts..... WJ
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:02 AM   #9
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Switching to IHRA solves what?



NHRA was taken from its members.


So, if someone takes something from you, your solution is to let them keep what belongs to you, and get yourself something else?
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dick,
it is thinking like this that has enabled this organization to scam both the racers and general public. "they" own nothing. "they" is a 501 (c)(6) not for profit corporation . "they" have been sucking off the public dole for more than 50 years. "they" have certain rules that "they" must adhere to in order for them to continue to suck off our tax dollars. And "they" aren't playing by the rules and therefore "they" will receive a very rude awakening for their illegal policies. I hope you understand now. That even "they" have rules and that there are agencies charged with oversight of these rules. These agencies can produce a terrible bite if alerted to the facts.
and all you have to do is organize and get back what is rightfully yours. You are the nhra-----not glendora.
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