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[Jeff Lee]

2012 CJ has CJ specific slicks from Goodyear! It sounds like they are even branded as CJ slicks.
Despite all the yelling here, that in itself tells me the industry is excited about the offerings.
That one item tells me these new cars are a good thing to the sport. Maybe not to the racers, but definitely good to the sport.
Personally, I've resolved that this is what it is and will not change. I'm still looking forward to getting my AMX out of prison. The 5.7 DP in SS/J / JA will be in my SS/G-H-I class soon enough. I'd love to be the first one to put one on a trailer!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

2012 CJ has CJ specific slicks from Goodyear! It sounds like they are even branded as CJ slicks.
Despite all the yelling here, that in itself tells me the industry is excited about the offerings.
That one item tells me these new cars are a good thing to the sport. Maybe not to the racers, but definitely good to the sport.
Personally, I've resolved that this is what it is and will not change. I'm still looking forward to getting my AMX out of prison. The 5.7 DP in SS/J / JA will be in my SS/G-H-I class soon enough. I'd love to be the first one to put one on a trailer!

Lots of Luck !!!!

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

2012 CJ has CJ specific slicks from Goodyear! It sounds like they are even branded as CJ slicks.
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I overheard a comment from one of the Mopar guys about Goodyear doing new slicks for the Challenger too. Probably the same ones.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

I overheard a comment from one of the Mopar guys about Goodyear doing new slicks for the Challenger too. Probably the same ones.

I remember when Firestone made Sox and Martin some front racing tires with the name "RONNIE SOX" in raised white letters back in the stone age for the 1970 or 71 'Cuda Pro Stocker. .

[herbjr]

If you dont have the fastest older combo in your class you have no reason to bitch about the new combos. I mean if you cant outrun the old stuff quit complaining about the new stuff. Read my post on page 2 if you want the whole explanation

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by herbjr

If you dont have the fastest older combo in your class you have no reason to bitch about the new combos. I mean if you cant outrun the old stuff quit complaining about the new stuff. Read my post on page 2 if you want the whole explanation

Bull. That's about the stupidest argument there is on all of this. Anyone who has a decent running older combination has a legitimate complaint.

Example: We race a 69 Camaro 427/425. Odds are, we'll never race DeArmond or Sorenson, because we run in Division 2, 3, and 4. But we win our share of heads up races and class races in our area. So neither of them are a factor for us, but several of the new cars ARE in the area where we race. So regardless of your B.S. opinion, yeah, we do have a legitimate complaint. Because we can usually run with most of the legitimate and reasonably factored combinations, at least close enough to make it a real race. But we can't run with the new cars, no matter what we do (at least within the rules).

[herbjr]

So what your telling me is your are the fastest older combo at any race you go to. I dont know if you guys realize it or not but stock and SS were on their way out, at least now there is something that has a new spark to possibly keep it around a little longer. SS racing has been good to my family for 45 years, it started in 1965 and my dad has lived a very good because and it all started SS racing in the 60's. But face the music guys, you are being replaced by Top Sportsman and Top Dragster, maybe if we can get chevy to build a car then keep the factories involved we may prolong the end of an era another 20 years or so. BUT I can promise you as a former track operator Stock and SS are so far off the screen in the big picture its not funny. Give them another year to take care of it, I mean you guys werent bitching when the LT1 came out, oh wait there was no message board back then.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by herbjr

So what your telling me is your are the fastest older combo at any race you go to. I dont know if you guys realize it or not but stock and SS were on their way out, at least now there is something that has a new spark to possibly keep it around a little longer. SS racing has been good to my family for 45 years, it started in 1965 and my dad has lived a very good because and it all started SS racing in the 60's. But face the music guys, you are being replaced by Top Sportsman and Top Dragster, maybe if we can get chevy to build a car then keep the factories involved we may prolong the end of an era another 20 years or so. BUT I can promise you as a former track operator Stock and SS are so far off the screen in the big picture its not funny. Give them another year to take care of it, I mean you guys werent bitching when the LT1 came out, oh wait there was no message board back then.

So what your saying is unless you have $100,000 to $200,000 to piss away there is no place for the little guy to race in a few years.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by herbjr

So what your telling me is your are the fastest older combo at any race you go to. I dont know if you guys realize it or not but stock and SS were on their way out, at least now there is something that has a new spark to possibly keep it around a little longer. SS racing has been good to my family for 45 years, it started in 1965 and my dad has lived a very good because and it all started SS racing in the 60's. But face the music guys, you are being replaced by Top Sportsman and Top Dragster, maybe if we can get chevy to build a car then keep the factories involved we may prolong the end of an era another 20 years or so. BUT I can promise you as a former track operator Stock and SS are so far off the screen in the big picture its not funny. Give them another year to take care of it, I mean you guys werent bitching when the LT1 came out, oh wait there was no message board back then.

I never said we were the fastest. I said we were reasonably competitive at most races. We have two class wins at national events, and two class wins at the Bowling Green Open race. So yeah, we have a legitimate complaint.

The new cars will not save Stock and Super Stock. The ONLY thing that will save Stock and Super Stock is for NHRA to be run as it was originally intended to be run. By the racers, for the racers. All this crap about the new cars "saving class racing" is nothing but a joke. They've caused just as many cars to be parked as new cars have been built. They've pushed long time racers to quit or cut back their schedules.

NHRA only cares about Stock and Super Stock with regard to how much of a cash cow they can be. They do not promote the classes, they treat them like bastard step children, Hell with the exception of a couple of announcers, they damned near tell the fans to go to the concession stands and the manufacturer's midway when Stock and Super Stock run.

Another year will not take care of it. Because in another year, there will be another batch of "new combinations" that start all over again with a nice soft bogus factor. There are already a dozen combinations that were never sold for street use, and could never be registered as a street car in the guide. In another year or two, there'll be a dozen more, so long as someone crosses the right palms with silver. The new rewritten rule that completely changes the character of Stock Eliminator guarantees that so long as one or more manufacturer wants to buy dominant performance in Stock Eliminator, they can keep right on getting bogus cars in the guide as long as they want to pay the price. Stock and Super Stock are for sale to the highest bidder every month. Just wait and see what happens when the cash stops flowing.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Bull. That's about the stupidest argument there is on all of this. Anyone who has a decent running older combination has a legitimate complaint.

Example: We race a 69 Camaro 427/425. Odds are, we'll never race DeArmond or Sorenson, because we run in Division 2, 3, and 4. But we win our share of heads up races and class races in our area. So neither of them are a factor for us, but several of the new cars ARE in the area where we race. So regardless of your B.S. opinion, yeah, we do have a legitimate complaint. Because we can usually run with most of the legitimate and reasonably factored combinations, at least close enough to make it a real race. But we can't run with the new cars, no matter what we do (at least within the rules).

Alan, just ignore that fool. Maybe he will go away again.