Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?

[THE LEGEND]

THE Million Dollar race was originated by George Howard and Steve Earwood. It's now owned by Randy Folk. This years edition will be at Montgomery. The EF is $2,000 and the BB is $500. This race is very much dominated by RED, but door cars have won.

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Casey you are refering to Rich Matty. He was using a device Nicknamed the "MATTY BOX" Go to brackettalk and research Matty or dirty dozen. Lots of rumors of what happened in Florida that year but fact Rich refused a teardown and was asked to leave then before the mob really got out of control. Side note the sanction bodies new it was out there but they never found it.

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Traction control is not allowed at many races nor it the MSD box you are reffering to. I would ask before I got caught with one.

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I can't answer Larry's question but if it's a factory item I don't see why not.
Chip

[magnumv8]

Not to throw gasoline on this subject but.....with all the I/Phone and personal handheld devices that are available now there is several performance and tuning apps for these that allow "on the fly" corrections to your vehicle WHILE YOU ARE ON THE TRACK......I have seen a couple in action and they are VERY accurate....they can take a previous run and repeat it once the time and distance is recorded from the previous run.....so....technology is officially ahead of the curve....do not allow them on your person in the vehicle, doesn't matter....the phone doesn't even need to be on the event property to accomplish this....I can see ignition boxes, ECU's, etc being removed and inspected by tech's from the respective manufacturers to verify that this modern micro technology hasn't been added so the phone can communicate with it....

D L Rambo....

[Ed Wright]

And, you get these apps where? What brand ECUs have Bluetooth? I tune most systems, no Bluetooth or wireless capabilities on anything I've encountered.

[Mike Comp T/A #57]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

And, you get these apps where? What brand ECUs have Bluetooth? I tune most systems, no Bluetooth or wireless capabilities on anything I've encountered.

Ed,
I have a Bluetooth interface that hooks up to the OBDII port under the dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/V-1-4-obd2-elm32...item2a10cdce66

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Mike Comp T/A #57

Ed,
I have a Bluetooth interface that hooks up to the OBDII port under the dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/V-1-4-obd2-elm32...item2a10cdce66

That is a basic OBD2 scanner. The new stuff is CAN interface. Scanners don't manipulate code in the ECU. Nothing like what was discussed.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Mike Comp T/A #57

Ed,
I have a Bluetooth interface that hooks up to the OBDII port under the dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/V-1-4-obd2-elm32...item2a10cdce66

Yep, I know a couple younger racers that run a real quick F-Body...And I have seen the "mechanic" control the pass with a smart phone. Computers are hell.Some of the young racers are genius with those computer controlled cars.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by borninamopar

Yep, I know a couple younger racers that run a real quick F-Body...And I have seen the "mechanic" control the pass with a smart phone. Computers are hell.Some of the young racers are genius with those computer controlled cars.

You simply do not know what you are talking about.
Somebody was pulling your leg, or your trying to pull ours.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

You simply do not know what you are talking about.
Somebody was pulling your leg, or your trying to pull ours.

Mr. Ed,
With todays technology; Why wouldn't it be possible? I don't know if they are really controlling the car..Just what was said and what I saw; Hell I'm computer illiterate: But, the computer geeks say it is possible, and they know alot more about that stuff than you and I do. And no, Ed, I'm not on drugs.

[Larry Hill]

Drive by wire is traction control!

If your foot is on the floor the throttle should be wide open. Yes the computer can adjust fuel and timing but should not be able to adjust throttle going down the track. Let the driver do all adjustments to the throttle position during the run.

Solution is have a cable from accelerator pedal to throttle shaft and a throttle position sensor sending info to the computer. If the computer controls the throttle that is traction control.

Drive by wire and the computer controlled throttle gives the racer the the unfair advantage of run tracing. Put a previous run in the computer tell it to trace and the run should be traceable to .002 of a second.

Gps; I overheard a lady's voice in a new race car radio "Arrive at destination in 1320 feet, time of arival 9.582 seconds".

As they say in the movies "Follow the money"

Have you seen a Ford spin lately?

Why are the governing bodies of this sport allowing the new cars to have such an unfair advantage in eliminations?