Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?

CBS · 06-14-2011, 11:48 AM

Mike....Do you know what you're talking about....

The drive by wire is a negative ...not a positive....

Larry,

Sorry I missed you this weekend....I think you are losing too much sleep over this....

They can probably do a special Pink CJ for you ya know....lol

Mike Fuller · 06-14-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CBS

Mike....Do you know what you're talking about....

The drive by wire is a negative ...not a positive....

Larry,

Sorry I missed you this weekend....I think you are losing too much sleep over this....

They can probably do a special Pink CJ for you ya know....lol

Ask Larry if this is not correct

Mark Markow · 06-14-2011, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS

Mike....Do you know what you're talking about....

The drive by wire is a negative ...not a positive....

Larry,

Sorry I missed you this weekend....I think you are losing too much sleep over this....

They can probably do a special Pink CJ for you ya know....lol

can you explain why it would be a negative? it seems to me being able to launch say a new mustang with limited traction at say 50% throttle, and ramp it to full on as traction allows, would be far from a negative. also i would think it would be simple enough to take a factory abs sensor that monitors wheels speed , and use it to have some sort of traction control.

Jeff Teuton · 06-14-2011, 10:00 PM

I got a new drive by wire system. I use a throttle cable, but we limit it to 70 or 80 or so %, but if I spin the tires, I pull this wire and open the throttle all the way and try to make it up. Comes out right under the tach and looks like a coat hanger. I might sell the patent to Lokar. I am developing a solenoid to pull it if the sensor detect the wheel spin, so I don't have to think about it. Works like this; If the rpm goes up faster than .03598 nanoseconds, the solenoid kicks in and pulls the throttle open. However if the rpm goes up only .02985 nanoseconds, then the throttle opens an additional 10%, and does not go to WOT only making up what I lose. I have a timer for the first 8.692 ft, and it can determine if the additional throttle is needed.

Ed Wright · 06-14-2011, 10:03 PM

Drinkin that s**t again, ain't ya Jeff? LMAO

Jeff Teuton · 06-14-2011, 10:24 PM

I have to drink that stuff to invent this stuff. I got a bottle of Grey Goose Orange going to Bristol along with fresh oranges for that slice that calms it down. I need someone staying at a hotel to bring me some ice maker ice. Much better than icemaker ice in the camper. Ice maker ice from the freezer picks up too many odors, but drink ice is not frozen nearly as hard, and it melts at a faster rate, therefore loosing the odors early before it can affect the drink. And it needs no cable. It loses the odor in .049876 miliseconds.

Jeff Teuton · 06-14-2011, 10:26 PM

If we don't have any other technical subjects, then I'm going to bed as the 4 AM departure comes early.

Ed Wright · 06-14-2011, 10:43 PM

Good luck Jeff!

magnumv8 · 06-15-2011, 07:48 PM

Ed....Bluetooth, WI-FI, 802.11 are all available to access data and monitor a vehicles functions with the proper interfaces and apps that are also available,with the micro electronics some of these are small enough to integrate into an ignition box or an ECU.....the technology has been out there for years (F1 has been able to do this for a long time but they aren't supposed to use it, same with INDY cars....monitoring is OK,tuning on the fly is not even though they can).....auto-tuning and or self calibration to a preset ET (once set) is pretty easily done for someone intent on doing it.....

D L Rambo.....

Larry Hill · 06-15-2011, 08:20 PM

Chuck of C&W try looking for a program that looks very similar to cruise control. You know you tell the computer how fast to run and the computer adjust throttle position, fuel delivery, and timing to trace a run.

Remember F1 had to pass a rule to have the driver shift the transmission.

Most if not all things are possible if enough money is spent in the right place.

06-14-2011, 11:48 AM	#1
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? Mike....Do you know what you're talking about.... The drive by wire is a negative ...not a positive.... Larry, Sorry I missed you this weekend....I think you are losing too much sleep over this.... They can probably do a special Pink CJ for you ya know....lol

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Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? I got a new drive by wire system. I use a throttle cable, but we limit it to 70 or 80 or so %, but if I spin the tires, I pull this wire and open the throttle all the way and try to make it up. Comes out right under the tach and looks like a coat hanger. I might sell the patent to Lokar. I am developing a solenoid to pull it if the sensor detect the wheel spin, so I don't have to think about it. Works like this; If the rpm goes up faster than .03598 nanoseconds, the solenoid kicks in and pulls the throttle open. However if the rpm goes up only .02985 nanoseconds, then the throttle opens an additional 10%, and does not go to WOT only making up what I lose. I have a timer for the first 8.692 ft, and it can determine if the additional throttle is needed. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? Drinkin that s**t again, ain't ya Jeff? LMAO __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

06-14-2011, 10:24 PM	#6
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? I have to drink that stuff to invent this stuff. I got a bottle of Grey Goose Orange going to Bristol along with fresh oranges for that slice that calms it down. I need someone staying at a hotel to bring me some ice maker ice. Much better than icemaker ice in the camper. Ice maker ice from the freezer picks up too many odors, but drink ice is not frozen nearly as hard, and it melts at a faster rate, therefore loosing the odors early before it can affect the drink. And it needs no cable. It loses the odor in .049876 miliseconds. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

06-14-2011, 10:26 PM	#7
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? If we don't have any other technical subjects, then I'm going to bed as the 4 AM departure comes early. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

06-14-2011, 10:43 PM	#8
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? Good luck Jeff! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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magnumv8 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coraopolis, Pa. Posts: 172 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ? Ed....Bluetooth, WI-FI, 802.11 are all available to access data and monitor a vehicles functions with the proper interfaces and apps that are also available,with the micro electronics some of these are small enough to integrate into an ignition box or an ECU.....the technology has been out there for years (F1 has been able to do this for a long time but they aren't supposed to use it, same with INDY cars....monitoring is OK,tuning on the fly is not even though they can).....auto-tuning and or self calibration to a preset ET (once set) is pretty easily done for someone intent on doing it..... D L Rambo.....

06-15-2011, 08:20 PM	#10
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