Back from Indy-what's happened to Stock Eliminator??

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

I can understand about the not street legal crap. OK. But whats with lockup converter, crash protection, emission control? If you run your stocker with all this crap on it you are missing the boat. As far as compression ratios go I'm sure there are no laws regulating that. As far as the street legal deal goes I'm sure I could get one of those licenced as an assembled vehicle where I live.

Up until 2008, cars eligible for Stock Eliminator had to have all the required emissions and safety equipment on them that was required for the date of manufacture. They also had to be produced and sold to the general public with the same drivetrain racers used for competition. It made Stock Eliminator what it is, the class for real production street cars as produced and sold to the general public for street use to be raced in.

A body in white is nothing but a new production body that failed QC inspection. It merely prevents a racer from having to buy a car, take it apart, and throw away or sell what he doesn't use. A body in white can be used to build a race car that uses a production line assembled sold to the general public for street use drivetrain. The "body in white" argument doesn't hold water.


Yeah, that's cool, you can get an "assembled vehicle" title and VIN for a race car. So, can I go build a new Camaro, based on a body in white, with a full race LSx engine and a Liberty 5 speed, get an "assembled vehicle" title and VIN and race it in Stock Eliminator? See the problem there? Once you open that door, anything can walk in. They opened Pandora's Box. New factory cars can be created every year with a stroke of a pen. The idea is not sustainable, it will kill the class, never mind the fact that allowing them in changes it from Stock Eliminator to Factory FX Eliminator.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Up until 2008, cars eligible for Stock Eliminator had to have all the required emissions and safety equipment on them that was required for the date of manufacture. They also had to be produced and sold to the general public with the same drivetrain racers used for competition. It made Stock Eliminator what it is, the class for real production street cars as produced and sold to the general public for street use to be raced in.

A body in white is nothing but a new production body that failed QC inspection. It merely prevents a racer from having to buy a car, take it apart, and throw away or sell what he doesn't use. A body in white can be used to build a race car that uses a production line assembled sold to the general public for street use drivetrain. The "body in white" argument doesn't hold water.


Yeah, that's cool, you can get an "assembled vehicle" title and VIN for a race car. So, can I go build a new Camaro, based on a body in white, with a full race LSx engine and a Liberty 5 speed, get an "assembled vehicle" title and VIN and race it in Stock Eliminator? See the problem there? Once you open that door, anything can walk in. They opened Pandora's Box. New factory cars can be created every year with a stroke of a pen. The idea is not sustainable, it will kill the class, never mind the fact that allowing them in changes it from Stock Eliminator to Factory FX Eliminator.

and .001 of lift change or .001 difference in head gasket and presto change-o you have a new, fresh, unmolested HP rating

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Not to mention these cars were put on a Jenny Craig diet that would have made Haystacks Calhoun look like Twiggy.(Wow does that make me show my age).

Only old guys know who Haystacks Calhoun was.....or Twiggy for that matter....

It's 2011 not 1971

[BlueOval Ralph]

1969 we entered a 1969 Boss 302 at the US National it a F/S car NHRA Reratedit to 330 horese power how things have changed!!!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Only old guys know who Haystacks Calhoun was.....or Twiggy for that matter....

It's 2011 not 1971

Hey. Who you callin "old"?

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Hey. Who you callin "old"?

Me......and anyone who remembers Haystacks Calhoun and Twiggy.....



P.S. What did Haystacks wear around his neck?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Me......and anyone who remembers Haystacks Calhoun and Twiggy.....



P.S. What did Haystacks wear around his neck?

There you go Doc:

Maybe the Barton's could use him for security this weekend.:>):>):>):>)

[Mike Bassin]

Rich,

Haystacks wore a chain with a horse shoe attached to it. Yeah, I'm old too! I don't care though.

Mike Bassin

[Rich Biebel]

Mike I only care when someone calls ME an Old FxxK........and that happened just a few weeks ago.

A "Nice" young lady with her young daughter in her car and she did not like the way I was WALKING down her street and getting in her way........I was at fault for not paying attention...but I thought Old FXXK was a little harsh.......She actually backed up to get in my face and this led to a little confrontation........She lives maybe 100-200 yards from me....A side road barely big enough to be called a road....

I don't think of myself as old but I get reminded of my age all the time......It gets annoying.....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Mike I only care when someone calls ME an Old FxxK........and that happened just a few weeks ago.

A "Nice" young lady with her young daughter in her car and she did not like the way I was WALKING down her street and getting in her way........I was at fault for not paying attention...but I thought Old FXXK was a little harsh.......She actually backed up to get in my face and this led to a little confrontation........She lives maybe 100-200 yards from me....A side road barely big enough to be called a road....

I don't think of myself as old but I get reminded of my age all the time......It gets annoying.....

I couldnt post on here what I would have said to her.....LOL.