Back from Indy-what's happened to Stock Eliminator??

[Nathan Stinson]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Read the post I replied to again, and see if you can pick out the tone and personal insults. Just like this message, where you accuse people of "throwing fits". That's all you've got, no facts, just attempts to insult.

Together with my customer, we worked for 4 years to develop a competitive car, only to have NHRA pencil his $60K plus investment right into obsolescence. You go right ahead and tell me how well you understand that. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it's you. Good luck with that.

No, we won't be quitting, we won't be retiring, and we won't be silenced, certainly not by people who have no dog in the fight. Sorry to disappoint you. But guys like Bruce, Mark, Billy, Greg Hill, and I will go right on stating the facts, and making the case for what we know is right. If that bothers you, too bad, ignore it, or live with it. It makes no difference to us. We'll fight for what we believe in, for the good of the sport.

I read it again Alan......nope still dont see where I called you a name only stated what I see. I am glad to see that you dont plan on retiring that is a good thing. So at this point what do you and said car owner do? (I assume you are talking about Kevin) Do you change with the game?? Do you keep spending his money and beating on a combo that is no longer competitive?? Do you wait for the rules to change back in your favor??
It doesnt bother me that you make a case for what you feel is right, I guess I just find myself wondering at what point it becomes futile to waste the effort bitching about something that you havent changed in a years worth of "Making your case"
I would never try and guess what the powers at NHRA might do in the future but as for now it appears they have made the decision and it doesnt bode well for your case.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I read it again Alan......nope still dont see where I called you a name only stated what I see. I am glad to see that you dont plan on retiring that is a good thing. So at this point what do you and said car owner do? (I assume you are talking about Kevin) Do you change with the game?? Do you keep spending his money and beating on a combo that is no longer competitive?? Do you wait for the rules to change back in your favor??
It doesnt bother me that you make a case for what you feel is right, I guess I just find myself wondering at what point it becomes futile to waste the effort bitching about something that you havent changed in a years worth of "Making your case"
I would never try and guess what the powers at NHRA might do in the future but as for now it appears they have made the decision and it doesnt bode well for your case.

It's his car. we'll keep working on it until he says otherwise. I seriously doubt he'll spend $75K to start over from scratch. I sure wouldn't.

What concern is it of yours to begin with? Seriously. There's something we have to wonder about. Since you do not race Stock Eliminator, exactly what is it that concerns you? Since you want to bring up futility.

[Nathan Stinson]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

It's his car. we'll keep working on it until he says otherwise. I seriously doubt he'll spend $75K to start over from scratch. I sure wouldn't.

What concern is it of yours to begin with? Seriously. There's something we have to wonder about. Since you do not race Stock Eliminator, exactly what is it that concerns you? Since you want to bring up futility.

No real concern I just asked a legitimate question and you gave me an answer, Thanks. In all of this banter back and forth with you I find it funny how in the end all you can come up with is to throw the fact up that I don't race stock, you have done it on several occasions, like that some how makes me beneath you. It really doesn't matter what I race, I am a drag racer and I happen to love class racing. I have raced stock before. I am a member of NHRA, have a competition license and a competition number. I have been on this board since 2006 and while I don't post often, when I am quoted I will respond with what I have to say.
The only thing that concerned me in this is like I said earlier: you started in on me after post 5 because I go against what some of you feel about the current state of stock racing and it has become your mission to disagree with all that go against that and get that message out. I hear your message Alan, but like I said the only part I agree with is that times have changed.

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

No real concern I just asked a legitimate question and you gave me an answer, Thanks. In all of this banter back and forth with you I find it funny how in the end all you can come up with is to throw the fact up that I don't race stock, you have done it on several occasions, like that some how makes me beneath you. It really doesn't matter what I race, I am a drag racer and I happen to love class racing. I have raced stock before. I am a member of NHRA, have a competition license and a competition number. I have been on this board since 2006 and while I don't post often, when I am quoted I will respond with what I have to say.
The only thing that concerned me in this is like I said earlier: you started in on me after post 5 because I go against what some of you feel about the current state of stock racing and it has become your mission to disagree with all that go against that and get that message out. I hear your message Alan, but like I said the only part I agree with is that times have changed.

Nathan, I've been racing stock for the past 25 years and this is the first time I've ever even seen your name. What NHRA has done to stock eliminator is harmful to the class. All you have to do is look at the car counts at National events. You are entitled to your opinion, however you don't have a dog in this hunt so your opinion is just that your opinion and not relevant to most of us on this board.

[Ed Wright]

He is just looking for some attention.

[Bobby Zlatkin]

Originally posted by David Huff;
In the Stock Eliminator Final was a 2009 DP and a 2000 Chevy Z28 and it sure looks like the older cars can compete to me.

No reflection on anybody or anything. It just seems funny to me that a 2000 Chevy Z28 is considered an 'older car'.
I consider '60's cars "the older cars". Ha Ha, I guess I'm really showing my age without realizing it.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin

Originally posted by David Huff;
In the Stock Eliminator Final was a 2009 DP and a 2000 Chevy Z28 and it sure looks like the older cars can compete to me.

No reflection on anybody or anything. It just seems funny to me that a 2000 Chevy Z28 is considered an 'older car'.
I consider '60's cars "the older cars". Ha Ha, I guess I'm really showing my age without realizing it.

Simply means the 2000 Camaro didn't have a heads-up with a DP or Mustang.