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Old 02-27-2012, 04:17 AM   #1
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I agree the auto would be better under most cases with a 30x9, but some of these guys are awful good with the clutch, example: Kip Martin 1.32 60s @ 10.3s, 3000 pound car, of course that isnt a stocker either.
So you are okay with Kip's numbers being a 1.32 60' running 10.30's but not a 1.28 60 running 10.00's. I get it....
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:55 AM   #2
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So you are okay with Kip's numbers being a 1.32 60' running 10.30's but not a 1.28 60 running 10.00's. I get it....
Yes I am, theres a big difference between a 2950-3000 pound backhalved SS car running 1.32 60 @ 10.30 and a 3880 pound bolt on suspension car running 1.28 @ 10.07. I dont think you understand how far the gap is between those 4 hundreths. Wouldnt it just be easier to post the time slip with the 1.28 and put all this to rest??
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:03 AM   #3
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it does not 60 foot 1.28.
again because the guy hiding behind a screen name who registered soley to pursue his agenda says it can't be. Too funny. Somebody better tell Kevin Borgstom and Joe Abazzia who both went 1.29 60 foot in their B/SA Chevelles and at a slower ET if I remember correctly and with LESS power than my 468.

That said, the accusations from the internet experts and careet test/tuners is nothing new, you name it, they've said it, going back over 10 years ago and long before my ride ran a 10.07 and a 1.28 60 foot. Those that refuse to believe say it didn't weight 3880 lbs. it wasn't a 468, I was spraying it, the clocks were off, jersey math, yada, yada, yada and not 1 has ever seen it in person. Meanwhile numerous racers who know the car, who have actually seen it run and who competed with me weekly, as well my engine builder have stated online it was exactly as I have posted.

Now, unlike the rest of the drag racing forums on the net whose posters are largely career test/tuners, bench racers and dreamers, this group here, largely class racers, know that the peformance I had achieved with my Chevelle while impressive and on par with some of the best stockers back in 2007 is not only believeable, it's not all that difficult to do with a properly preppared car especially given my engine was not stock eliminator legal. This is what this guy fails to understand...the devil is in the details and my Chevelle while bracket raced was a built as if a stocker!

On that note, up untill 2007 when I retired the 468, my Chevelle ran quicker and faster than EVERY 454, 496, 502, GM's 720HP 572 and most 540's in a similar Chevelle here in Division 1 brackets!

Now, many of the same group that have doubted the combo and performance of my Chevelle, also doubt the combo and performance of my current ride that has 60 footed 1.17 off the footbrake!

Truth me told, today 5 years later, I could have the same car/combo at the same weight running new best numbers at least 2 tenths quicker and maybe even run a 1.27 60 foot.

Thanks to those that have sent me PMs and my appologies to Ken for the direction this thread has gone.

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:17 AM   #4
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again because the guy hiding behind a screen name who registered soley to pursue his agenda says it can't be. Too funny. Somebody better tell Kevin Borgstom and Joe Abazzia who both went 1.29 60 foot in their B/SA Chevelles and at a slower ET if I remember correctly and with LESS power than my 468.

That said, the accusations from the internet experts and careet test/tuners is nothing new, you name it, they've said it, going back over 10 years ago and long before my ride ran a 10.07 and a 1.28 60 foot. Those that refuse to believe say it didn't weight 3880 lbs. it wasn't a 468, I was spraying it, the clocks were off, jersey math, yada, yada, yada and not 1 has ever seen it in person. Meanwhile numerous racers who know the car, who have actually seen it run and who competed with me weekly, as well my engine builder have stated online it was exactly as I have posted.

Further, back in 2007, it ran quicker and faster than EVERY 454, 496, 502, GM's 720HP 572 and most 540's in a similar Chevelle here in Division 1 brackets!

Now, unlike the rest of the drag racing forums on the net whose posters are largely career test/tuners, bench racers and dreamers, this group here, largely class racers, know that the peformance I had achieved with my Chevelle while impressive and on par with some of the best stockers back in 2007 is not only believeable, it's not all that difficult to do with a properly preppared car especially given my engine was not stock eliminator legal. This is what this guy fails to understand...the devil is in the details and my Chevelle while bracket raced was a built as if a stocker!

Hell, many of the same group that have doubted the combo and performance of my Chevelle, also doubt the combo and performance of my current ride that has 60 footed 1.17 off the footbrake!

Truth me told, today 5 years later, I could have the same car/combo at the same weight running new best numbers at least 2 tenths quicker and maybe even run a 1.27 60 foot.

Thanks to those that have sent me PMs and my appologies to Ken for the direction this thread has gone.
Ed, if theres any chevelle stock eliminator car out there thats been 1.28 and can post a time slip, I will be the first to apologize. Carson Pedigo as far as I know C/SA record holder (3780 pounds) 1.33 60 foot, the difference between a 1.33 and a 1.28 is a long way, a BSA Chevelle does not weigh 3880 pounds. I cant understand why you just refuse to post the time slip, you said you had it. And I do understand details. Four link SS/GT cars with 522s will 60 1.17 off the foot brake.

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WOW, what were we discussing? It is just this kinda crap that keeps me off YB!

The Ken Kier wheelie bar set up not only works well, it it one of the easiest kits to install because you don't have any welding to do to the diff housing. i have heard that their limit seems to be with A stick cars that launch rather violently, but Ken has a fix for that too! He was great to discuss his product with even though i told i was purchasing a used peice. i would recommend his product to anyone that asks.

... oh ya, 1.34, 6.51- 102, 10.44 -124 - just in case you don't believe me, i will not scan my time slip - blow me! Ha!

if you have anything more to say about the bogus (or not) red chevelle start a new post, in a differnt area, your wasting good space discussing crap.

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WOW, what were we discussing? It is just this kinda crap that keeps me off YB!

The Ken Kier wheelie bar set up not only works well, it it one of the easiest kits to install because you don't have any welding to do to the diff housing. i have heard that their limit seems to be with A stick cars that launch rather violently, but Ken has a fix for that too! He was great to discuss his product with even though i told i was purchasing a used peice. i would recommend his product to anyone that asks.

... oh ya, 1.34, 6.51- 102, 10.44 -124 - just in case you don't believe me, i will not scan my time slip - blow me! Ha!

if you have anything more to say about the bogus (or not) red chevelle start a new post, in a differnt area, your wasting good space discussing crap.

Ian
Thats what good leavin 10.4 camaro runs, 1.34. By the way Ed Wright, notice the ET to MPH, (10.44@ 124) thanks for making my point.

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Old 02-27-2012, 09:43 PM   #9
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Thats what good leavin 10.4 camaro runs, 1.34. By the way Ed Wright, notice the ET to MPH, (10.44@ 124) thanks for making my point.
Last thing I have to say, dumb ***, my car has run several 131 mph passes, some slower than 10.07. That 's with 1.29 to 1.31 is where I usually am.
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WOW, what were we discussing? It is just this kinda crap that keeps me off YB!

The Ken Kier wheelie bar set up not only works well, it it one of the easiest kits to install because you don't have any welding to do to the diff housing. i have heard that their limit seems to be with A stick cars that launch rather violently, but Ken has a fix for that too! He was great to discuss his product with even though i told i was purchasing a used peice. i would recommend his product to anyone that asks.

... oh ya, 1.34, 6.51- 102, 10.44 -124 - just in case you don't believe me, i will not scan my time slip - blow me! Ha!

if you have anything more to say about the bogus (or not) red chevelle start a new post, in a differnt area, your wasting good space discussing crap.

Ian
Ian, you have a beautiful car and that looks like the perfect wheelie to me.
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