The damage recently done

Jason · 09-08-2012, 08:55 PM

Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?

09-09-2012, 12:00 AM

I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

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Originally Posted by Jason

Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?

Ed Fernandez · 09-09-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

Hey Tood,what street?

Michael Beard · 09-09-2012, 10:44 AM

Is the case being made that the parts in question are correct and backed up by legitimate sources, or that 'other cars have illegitimate parts and therefore it is ok'? Or is the argument that parts are unavailable and superceded parts are deemed necessary? If the latter, parts with improved performance capabilities should carry additional horsepower, as has been done with some aftermarket heads, etc.

SSDiv6 · 09-09-2012, 12:03 PM

It appears that it was an over the counter option that other makes of cars have got approved and I believe no different to what NHRA has allowed for use as applicable to the 1962 Plymouth with the 383 - Two/4BBL, another over the counter parts package and other allowances such as the aluminum intakes for the 273 Chrysler, Fords, Single 4BBl Hemi and many others.

BlueOval Ralph · 09-09-2012, 08:55 AM

Thats not true I was at Ford (E&F Engine and Foundry) from 1966 to 1980 at the time this is not true only the 68 early 10 car build by Stroupe had the aluminum intake along with the lite weight valves!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

Jason · 09-09-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Thats not true I was at Ford (E&F Engine and Foundry) from 1966 to 1980 at the time this is not true only the 68 early 10 car build by Stroupe had the aluminum intake along with the lite weight valves!

The cars built with the PI aluminum intake were run in S/S only. Stock had to use the cast iron intake. It has been that way up until 8/21/12 when the bogus change got put in the spec sheet.

BlueOval Ralph · 09-09-2012, 01:04 PM

Those cars SS also were built with lite valves and C8AX NASCAR mech lifter .600 lift cam

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Originally Posted by Jason

The cars built with the PI aluminum intake were run in S/S only. Stock had to use the cast iron intake. It has been that way up until 8/21/12 when the bogus change got put in the spec sheet.

Paul Wong · 09-09-2012, 01:50 PM

In my research it appears you need to go find any dealer performance catalog from any manufacturer and get approved whatever parts were sold over the counter. I dont see why the stretch is not made to put the cross ram on all amc V-8 engines because it does not specify what motor it goes on. Stock is nearing its end and like i said i am going to complete my bucket list before we are merged into some other grand plan.

Gary Smith · 09-09-2012, 02:07 PM

These changes are making Nostalgia SS look better and more legit all the time

09-08-2012, 08:55 PM	#1
Jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 235 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Here's another one for you Billy... Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets. Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet. The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?

09-09-2012, 10:44 AM	#4
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Is the case being made that the parts in question are correct and backed up by legitimate sources, or that 'other cars have illegitimate parts and therefore it is ok'? Or is the argument that parts are unavailable and superceded parts are deemed necessary? If the latter, parts with improved performance capabilities should carry additional horsepower, as has been done with some aftermarket heads, etc. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

09-09-2012, 12:03 PM	#5
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,044 Likes: 712 Liked 1,583 Times in 582 Posts	Re: The damage recently done It appears that it was an over the counter option that other makes of cars have got approved and I believe no different to what NHRA has allowed for use as applicable to the 1962 Plymouth with the 383 - Two/4BBL, another over the counter parts package and other allowances such as the aluminum intakes for the 273 Chrysler, Fords, Single 4BBl Hemi and many others.

09-09-2012, 01:50 PM	#9
Paul Wong Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 384 Likes: 101 Liked 419 Times in 85 Posts	Re: The damage recently done In my research it appears you need to go find any dealer performance catalog from any manufacturer and get approved whatever parts were sold over the counter. I dont see why the stretch is not made to put the cross ram on all amc V-8 engines because it does not specify what motor it goes on. Stock is nearing its end and like i said i am going to complete my bucket list before we are merged into some other grand plan. Last edited by Paul Wong; 09-09-2012 at 02:12 PM.

09-09-2012, 02:07 PM	#10
Gary Smith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 820 Likes: 9 Liked 132 Times in 30 Posts	Re: The damage recently done These changes are making Nostalgia SS look better and more legit all the time __________________ Gary Smith "another broke racer spectating"

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