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Old 12-05-2012, 08:40 PM   #1
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I know the new cars are under factored. But that is why I built one. As racers we are also looking of an advantage over the competition.
But let's face it our sport was on a downward spiral. In 2007 membership for stk and ss was at a 15 year low. It needed some kind of shot in the arm to boost interest. I know some of you don't feel like I do, but putting these Comobs in with a soft HP sparked tons on interest and support from manufactures . And according to NHRA at PRI this year new membership is up over 250 members in SS and STK from 2007. You guys can taking all you want about HP but if there is no SS or STK what does it matter? HP well work itself out, it always does.






Kenny can you make a racer poll
Bruce should quit racing with NHRA
Bruce should stay racing with NHRA
Let's let the racing community of class racer vote
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:46 PM   #2
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HP well work itself out, it always does.
Well do me a favor and put a 352 with an auto in your car and help expedite the process, hell I'll even drive it for you.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:48 PM   #3
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Andrew you build or buy the motor you can use my car.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:54 PM   #4
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Andrew you build or buy the motor you can use my car.
I'll see if I can find any generous donors to make it happen!
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:59 PM   #5
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Some of you guys are making look like Dale Carnagy. Thanks! LOL
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:07 PM   #6
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Charley,

I think I will stay out of this one, you seem to be doing just fine without my help. The changing of the guard is not always easy or pretty.

All I can says is, I'm building a new engine for Shelby, and when its done I will be racing in CC. I have had a few heads up races and got my butt kicked, but for the most part I'm still competitive and still having fun. Being involved in two new cars and having my old car tells me we can all live together. These cars are here to stay for better or worse, and so am I.

I do respect everyone's opinion, but I hate to see things get so ugly. A little respect goes a long way towards each other, but I can't force members to show respect, I can only suggest it.

Andrew, the 352 has some great parts, but CNC’D Heads are not one of them.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:06 PM   #7
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Andrew, the 352 has some great parts, but CNC’D Heads are not one of them.
This head is the part number listed in the engine blueprint guide
M-6049-Z304DA

http://www.roushyatesparts.com/ford-...049-z304da.htm

it talks about CNC porting at the bottom, so the accepted head is the non-CNC'd version?
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Correct Andrew, when the engine was submitted to NHRA it did list the cnc head, but NHRA said no.The 352 and 428 along with the new 363 and 427 all use the non cnc heads.
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M-6049-Z304DA - 63cc CNC'd combustion chamber. NHRA allows 56cc
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This head is the part number listed in the engine blueprint guide
M-6049-Z304DA

http://www.roushyatesparts.com/ford-...049-z304da.htm

it talks about CNC porting at the bottom, so the accepted head is the non-CNC'd version?
There's something screwy in this head deal because Roush says the heads have runner volumes of 204 and 85 as cast and the spec in the engine blueprint section says 230 and 91. Wonder where those extra cc's came from?
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