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Old 12-06-2012, 08:57 AM   #221
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Yep, when in doubt, and there's nothing else, attack the spelling...

(hope I spelled yep right)
It's kind of pointless to complain about the "pros" since there's maybe only 2 left? Fletcher and Rampy? You should start a new thread about it if you want. It usually comes up this time of year anyway....every year.....
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:40 AM   #222
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I can't help but read all of this bantering about the decks being stacked against us "old race car" racers and instead of the verbiage "unfairly low HP ratings", insert "allowing professional / full-time racers to race against us, the true sportsmen"
It was OK to stack that deck with your heroes. If that was the case (and a hugh majority seemed to think it as acceptable), then stacking the deck with low HP engines shouldn't be an issue.
In both instances, NHRA has allowed one side an unfair advantage and as a result, you are loosing money.
Spelling is a hugh deal on this site.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:36 PM   #223
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My My, I leave yall alone for a couple days, and yall go crazy. Breathe deep into your nose and exhale slowly through your mouth. Do the Yoga 'ahmmmmm, ahmmmm, ahmmmm. There, now much better. Yall is the proper spelling for yall. I think I will just work on my stuff, and on Feb 15 or so, I will go to Florida. I plan on being in good spirits.
Sheep, Sheep Dogs, Foreign Language, bogus HP and all other things that make your blood pressure rise will be gone. I'm gettin about 8 hp for Christmas if yall want to celebrate. But I'm also gettin some nice presents from my 13 Grandchildren, and a nice cuddly smile from my 11 month old Grandaughter Annabelle with her bright red hair and big blue eyes. Ahmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmm. Better huh?
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:06 PM   #224
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Andrew, the 352 has some great parts, but CNC’D Heads are not one of them.
This head is the part number listed in the engine blueprint guide
M-6049-Z304DA

http://www.roushyatesparts.com/ford-...049-z304da.htm

it talks about CNC porting at the bottom, so the accepted head is the non-CNC'd version?
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:19 PM   #225
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Correct Andrew, when the engine was submitted to NHRA it did list the cnc head, but NHRA said no.The 352 and 428 along with the new 363 and 427 all use the non cnc heads.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:40 PM   #226
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My My, I leave yall alone for a couple days, and yall go crazy. Breathe deep into your nose and exhale slowly through your mouth. Do the Yoga 'ahmmmmm, ahmmmm, ahmmmm. There, now much better. Yall is the proper spelling for yall. I think I will just work on my stuff, and on Feb 15 or so, I will go to Florida. I plan on being in good spirits.
Sheep, Sheep Dogs, Foreign Language, bogus HP and all other things that make your blood pressure rise will be gone. I'm gettin about 8 hp for Christmas if yall want to celebrate. But I'm also gettin some nice presents from my 13 Grandchildren, and a nice cuddly smile from my 11 month old Grandaughter Annabelle with her bright red hair and big blue eyes. Ahmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmm. Better huh?
You truly are a lucky man Jeff. Jim

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:43 PM   #227
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M-6049-Z304DA - 63cc CNC'd combustion chamber. NHRA allows 56cc
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:52 PM   #228
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My My, I leave yall alone for a couple days, and yall go crazy. Breathe deep into your nose and exhale slowly through your mouth. Do the Yoga 'ahmmmmm, ahmmmm, ahmmmm. There, now much better. Yall is the proper spelling for yall. I think I will just work on my stuff, and on Feb 15 or so, I will go to Florida. I plan on being in good spirits.
Sheep, Sheep Dogs, Foreign Language, bogus HP and all other things that make your blood pressure rise will be gone. I'm gettin about 8 hp for Christmas if yall want to celebrate. But I'm also gettin some nice presents from my 13 Grandchildren, and a nice cuddly smile from my 11 month old Grandaughter Annabelle with her bright red hair and big blue eyes. Ahmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmmm, Ahmmmmmm. Better huh?
Merry Christmas Jeff!
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:53 PM   #229
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This head is the part number listed in the engine blueprint guide
M-6049-Z304DA

http://www.roushyatesparts.com/ford-...049-z304da.htm

it talks about CNC porting at the bottom, so the accepted head is the non-CNC'd version?
There's something screwy in this head deal because Roush says the heads have runner volumes of 204 and 85 as cast and the spec in the engine blueprint section says 230 and 91. Wonder where those extra cc's came from?
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M-6049-Z304P - The ported head.
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