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Old 08-10-2007, 03:39 PM   #1
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Dick, With all due respect, keep FWD cars out of your grand agenda! We have been **** on since 1988. If you remember there were 14 FWD classes and now even after a lot of begging and dealing there are but 5! Leave us out of it, we have paid the price. I personally like being different, and having a different combo. Just because my FWD car doesn't go 10.0 doesn't make it any less fun for me. FWD would never survive in RWD classes, that's why they made FWD classes to begin with.

The first thing to do if you must reduce classes is to combine FI and Carb classes. The classes and indexes are practically mirror images of themselves anyway.

I agree Modified car belong in Comp. It's dumb for them to have two eliminators to run it! Jim
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:50 PM   #2
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Well said Jim leave FWD cars alone I like it the way it is.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:53 PM   #3
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I agree, changes are needed...a National event w/SS having 59 entries & having class with only 13 classes with more than 1 car.

One change....NO class when only one car, hey, I know, you should not be faulted for building a odd combo, but get real, you run a single for class, while a guy has to win at least one or more rounds to win his class, is that fair......doing it this way will maybe promote more cars in those single classes.....may also keep NHRA from doing away with class...
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:54 PM   #4
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I agree, changes are needed...a National event w/SS having 59 entries & having class with only 13 classes with more than 1 car.

One change....NO class when only one car, hey, I know, you should not be faulted for building a odd combo, but get real, you run a single for class, while a guy has to win at least one or more rounds to win his class, is that fair......doing it this way will maybe promote more cars in those single classes.....may also keep NHRA from doing away with class...
Keith, no offense but HORRIBLE idea. One example of many is: You are the fastest guy in lets say B/SA at a class race, you can go 1.25 under. All the other guys in B/SA jump out to other classes leaving you alone entered in B/SA. Now you don't get a Class Win? Even after you leg it for the single? I don't think so. As to the other suggestions, remember this, you can't "force" competition. If a guy wants to duck the competition by either changing class or any other method, the next viable option is to just not show up at races where class is contested. The result will be even lower car counts where class is contested.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:26 PM   #5
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I say leave FI in their own class. This is no different than what Just Observing stated earlier about Chevy II and Cobalt/cavalier/sunfire/G5. My Cuda is totally outdated compared to the new Firebirds and Comods .. they have a lot more adjustablity when it comes to fine tuning in any kind of air compared to an old carbed car. Yea, just get the HP right and it will be fair, has anyone on this forum happy with AHFS ??
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:36 PM   #6
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Bill ,

I think you are right and only the racers should have a say in STOCK and S/S rules.. Why haven't you guys been racing for the last 5 years... Yet you have all the answers to the problems
and No- agenda's Right !!! Dick, stick to Top Stock and AAA/Sa or what ever, leave stock and S/S alone ....The guys who race car handle it.... Dick you have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands ! ! ! Why don't you help out the Super Classes, Comp and Pro Stock they might want your help.. By the way, when is your car due out ?.........We have enough people with their own agenda's who are racing....Thanks, but No-thanks... Sorry , to be so blunt but it gets Old..
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:44 PM   #7
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DAVE: I think you have hit the nail on the HEAD. Well said...
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:19 AM   #8
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Dave and Irv Thanks for the respectful response. I had noticed many have voiced a wish to run their cars more often as a class car, heads up and feared the changes out west where Open events are purely bracket with no heads up. Seems expensive to run a Bracket race with a "class" car.
I was offering my thoughts on how current racers could get to race class style more often and from the personal responses from those who run TOP/STK in Div 1 and 3 and the Jr Stk, and TOP/S it is worth the effort.
Thanks again.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:48 PM   #9
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The first thing to do if you must reduce classes is to combine FI and Carb classes. The classes and indexes are practically mirror images of themselves anyway.

Jim

Hell, I'll go with this too. I'd prefer to return to .5 lbs change between classes, not having to find hiding places for weight. I've got 125 lbs exra just to make F weight, even with my fat *** in the car! Over 300 to make G.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:02 AM   #10
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Irv, Do you think there would be interest in a TOP/GT type race?
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